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[kurupetos]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...

Then the "TCs" will NOT be considered as another "community" in a united Cyprus .. they will be like the rest of us - just Cypriots. The remaining Turks living in the north will have to de-colonise and go back to Turkey!

This is not Canada, this is Cyprus. There are definitely two communities with different religions, traditions and taboos. Here is an easy example: How many married couples; TC and GC, are there in this island?
The answer to this question very well explains why you are not ready to live together. You are separated in minds not in pieces of land...

However, I support your view although it doesn't look feasible for now

That's a lie because there are many thousands TCs working and living in the free areas of the RoC.

Maybe you should take a walk in the turkish cypriot districts of Limassol & Larnaca.

There is no need for mixed marriages to coexist in peace. Cyprus is a multicultural society with many thousands Britons, Russians, Arabs, and others who live in peace and prosperity, although Cyprus is a small island.

Anything else is an excuse for partition.

[Alpeis]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...

Then the "TCs" will NOT be considered as another "community" in a united Cyprus .. they will be like the rest of us - just Cypriots. The remaining Turks living in the north will have to de-colonise and go back to Turkey!

This is not Canada, this is Cyprus. There are definitely two communities with different religions, traditions and taboos. Here is an easy example: How many married couples; TC and GC, are there in this island?
The answer to this question very well explains why you are not ready to live together. You are separated in minds not in pieces of land...

However, I support your view although it doesn't look feasible for now

That's a lie because there are many thousands TCs working and living in the free areas of the RoC.

Maybe you should take a walk in the turkish cypriot districts of Limassol & Larnaca.

There is no need for mixed marriages to coexist in peace. Cyprus is a multicultural society with many thousands Britons, Russians, Arabs, and others who live in peace and prosperity, although Cyprus is a small island.

Anything else is an excuse for partition.

Greek population has almost the highest marriage rate in EU but you cannot give a few examples of TC GC marriages. However you claim that there is no discrimination between the two communities. Sorry but I am not satisfied at all. I will be shocked if you really believe in what you tell

[kurupetos]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...

Then the "TCs" will NOT be considered as another "community" in a united Cyprus .. they will be like the rest of us - just Cypriots. The remaining Turks living in the north will have to de-colonise and go back to Turkey!

This is not Canada, this is Cyprus. There are definitely two communities with different religions, traditions and taboos. Here is an easy example: How many married couples; TC and GC, are there in this island?
The answer to this question very well explains why you are not ready to live together. You are separated in minds not in pieces of land...

However, I support your view although it doesn't look feasible for now

That's a lie because there are many thousands TCs working and living in the free areas of the RoC.

Maybe you should take a walk in the turkish cypriot districts of Limassol & Larnaca.

There is no need for mixed marriages to coexist in peace. Cyprus is a multicultural society with many thousands Britons, Russians, Arabs, and others who live in peace and prosperity, although Cyprus is a small island.

Anything else is an excuse for partition.

Greek population has almost the highest marriage rate in EU but you cannot give a few examples of TC GC marriages. However you claim that there is no discrimination between the two communities. Sorry but I am not satisfied at all. I will be shocked if you really believe in what you tell

What discrimination? Give some facts.

[Alpeis]

Already given dude. In open and civilized communities people don't look for a match of race or religion when getting married. This proves that they are one community with different races or religions as is in Canada. You should first manage this, then the unification will follow and all other problems; such as property issue, Turkish army etc, will definitely be resolved themselves.

You= TC's and GC's.
Even when writing here, I have to be careful about what I write as you see. If you were really one single community of Cypriots there would be no need to use TCs or GCs.

[Piratis]

That coup was a democratic move in your perspective whereas Turkish intervention to save TC's under the threat of new developments in Cyprus was not.

Who said that the coup was a "democratic move"? Were any of the several coups that happened in Turkey a "democratic move"? Could a coup in Turkey be an excuse for another country to invade and occupy part of Turkey?

The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 before 20th of July when Turkey (with the help of TC extremists) invaded Cyprus. Therefore your claim that Turkey invaded in order to "save" the TCs is totally wrong. Turkey and TCs were planning partition since the 1950s, and they found the chance to invade when Greeks were busy fighting each other.

Ok then, what was the aim of the coup??? To bring peace to TCs and GCs?

The same as the coups that happened in Turkey. To forcefully remove the democratically elected government and replace it with another.

They were ready to kill all people who are in the opposite view. It's obvious that TC's wouldn't share the same opinion with the new military government and eventually share the same destiny of others.

I am ready to discuss these in person but not in here limited to words. We can arrange a time for a meeting so that everybody can share their views easily.

The exact same like every other coup.

The fact is that no TCs were killed in 1974 before the Turkish invasion. Apparently the TCs instead of fighting on the side of the resistance in order to defeat the coupists, they instead choose to collaborate with Turkey in order to kill thousands and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of innocent people.

[Get Real!]

Whether or not it's welcome in the island it has provided the peace environment in the island since 1974.

If Turkey hadn’t been constantly arming and encouraging the 18% TC minority to oppose and confront the overwhelming majority of GCs, would there still be a need for a “peace operation” in July 74?

I wonder if your prestigious Turkish education ever made you think about that or did it go over your fez?

[Alpeis]

Whether or not it's welcome in the island it has provided the peace environment in the island since 1974.

If Turkey hadn’t been constantly arming and encouraging the 18% TC minority to oppose and confront the overwhelming majority of GCs, would there still be a need for a “peace operation” in July 74?

I wonder if your prestigious Turkish education ever made you think about that or did it go over your fez?

This is a single-sided view imposed on you dude. Every nation thinks that they are the innocent and other party is the guilty one. So you think that Greece has never armed anybody against Turks! One single response to you: "Bravo! on your perception"

[Get Real!]

Whether or not it's welcome in the island it has provided the peace environment in the island since 1974.

If Turkey hadn’t been constantly arming and encouraging the 18% TC minority to oppose and confront the overwhelming majority of GCs, would there still be a need for a “peace operation” in July 74?

I wonder if your prestigious Turkish education ever made you think about that or did it go over your fez?

This is a single-sided view imposed on you dude. Every nation thinks that they are the innocent and other party is the guilty one. So you think that Greece has never armed anybody against Turks! One single response to you: "Bravo! on your perception"

Not according to the Secretary-General of the UN who in 1965 summed up the official Turkish Cypriot policy with...

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document S/6426.

[Alpeis]

Whether or not it's welcome in the island it has provided the peace environment in the island since 1974.

If Turkey hadn’t been constantly arming and encouraging the 18% TC minority to oppose and confront the overwhelming majority of GCs, would there still be a need for a “peace operation” in July 74?

I wonder if your prestigious Turkish education ever made you think about that or did it go over your fez?

This is a single-sided view imposed on you dude. Every nation thinks that they are the innocent and other party is the guilty one. So you think that Greece has never armed anybody against Turks! One single response to you: "Bravo! on your perception"

Not according to the Secretary-General of the UN who in 1965 summed up the official Turkish Cypriot policy with...

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document S/6426.

This is something everyone knows about the history of Cyprus, but why do you think? Did they suddenly come up with this idea?
If you go back more you will find the answer

[Get Real!]

Whether or not it's welcome in the island it has provided the peace environment in the island since 1974.

If Turkey hadn’t been constantly arming and encouraging the 18% TC minority to oppose and confront the overwhelming majority of GCs, would there still be a need for a “peace operation” in July 74?

I wonder if your prestigious Turkish education ever made you think about that or did it go over your fez?

This is a single-sided view imposed on you dude. Every nation thinks that they are the innocent and other party is the guilty one. So you think that Greece has never armed anybody against Turks! One single response to you: "Bravo! on your perception"

Not according to the Secretary-General of the UN who in 1965 summed up the official Turkish Cypriot policy with...

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document S/6426.

This is something everyone knows about the history of Cyprus, but why do you think? Did they suddenly come up with this idea?
If you go back more you will find the answer

Interestingly enough if you go back even further you’ll find yet another invasion, occupation, and slaughtering of thousands of indigenous Cypriots by Ottomans…

If you’re so concerned about the wellbeing of Turkish Cypriots why did you bring and abandon them here in the first place?

On yer bike sunshine, and quit trying to be a smartarse around here because you’ll only get whooped...