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[Alpeis]

That coup was a democratic move in your perspective whereas Turkish intervention to save TC's under the threat of new developments in Cyprus was not.

Who said that the coup was a "democratic move"? Were any of the several coups that happened in Turkey a "democratic move"? Could a coup in Turkey be an excuse for another country to invade and occupy part of Turkey?

The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 before 20th of July when Turkey (with the help of TC extremists) invaded Cyprus. Therefore your claim that Turkey invaded in order to "save" the TCs is totally wrong. Turkey and TCs were planning partition since the 1950s, and they found the chance to invade when Greeks were busy fighting each other.

Ok then, what was the aim of the coup??? To bring peace to TCs and GCs?

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, just google the documentaries then you will see that they are really helpful to understand the history of Cypriots :..(

Sometimes it's much easier to examine issues in a simple level. Then you will be enlightened, otherwise you just get lost in details like what happened on which date. It's obvious that both sides suffered a lot. The only way to recover the past is to communicate with each other while not arguing who did what in the past. These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

I have been studying the Cyprus Problem for years, by reading reputable books. I have also seen all documentaries about the Cyprus Problem, so don't come here questioning the knowledge of the native Cypriots.

You are a foreigner, and your information is second hand. You have demonstrated zero knowledge about Cyprus so far.

[Paphitis]

That coup was a democratic move in your perspective whereas Turkish intervention to save TC's under the threat of new developments in Cyprus was not.

Who said that the coup was a "democratic move"? Were any of the several coups that happened in Turkey a "democratic move"? Could a coup in Turkey be an excuse for another country to invade and occupy part of Turkey?

The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 before 20th of July when Turkey (with the help of TC extremists) invaded Cyprus. Therefore your claim that Turkey invaded in order to "save" the TCs is totally wrong. Turkey and TCs were planning partition since the 1950s, and they found the chance to invade when Greeks were busy fighting each other.

Ok then, what was the aim of the coup??? To bring peace to TCs and GCs?

To remove the Soviet friendly Government. It had nothing to do with the TCs at all.

[Oracle]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

[Alpeis]

Paphitis, just google the documentaries then you will see that they are really helpful to understand the history of Cypriots :..(

Sometimes it's much easier to examine issues in a simple level. Then you will be enlightened, otherwise you just get lost in details like what happened on which date. It's obvious that both sides suffered a lot. The only way to recover the past is to communicate with each other while not arguing who did what in the past. These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

I have been studying the Cyprus Problem for years by reading reputable books. I have also seen all documentaries about the Cyprus Problem so don't come here questioning the knowledge of the native Cypriots.

You are a foreigner and your information is second hand. You have demonstrated zero knowledge about Cyprus so far.

Dude I agree with you this time that I haven't shared any information over history. I don't want to do so, because it has nothing to do with me. I am already paying for what happened in the past and I am now just facing the reality of today. Is it really necessary that I prove my knowledge about Cyprus history?

[Alpeis]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...You two communities are not ready to unite.

[Oracle]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...

Then the "TCs" will NOT be considered as another "community" in a united Cyprus .. they will be like the rest of us - just Cypriots. The remaining Turks living in the north will have to de-colonise and go back to Turkey!

[Piratis]

That coup was a democratic move in your perspective whereas Turkish intervention to save TC's under the threat of new developments in Cyprus was not.

Who said that the coup was a "democratic move"? Were any of the several coups that happened in Turkey a "democratic move"? Could a coup in Turkey be an excuse for another country to invade and occupy part of Turkey?

The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 before 20th of July when Turkey (with the help of TC extremists) invaded Cyprus. Therefore your claim that Turkey invaded in order to "save" the TCs is totally wrong. Turkey and TCs were planning partition since the 1950s, and they found the chance to invade when Greeks were busy fighting each other.

Ok then, what was the aim of the coup??? To bring peace to TCs and GCs?

The same as the coups that happened in Turkey. To forcefully remove the democratically elected government and replace it with another.

[Alpeis]

These two communities are definitely not ready to unite now. I am so sorry for all...

"These two communities ..."; if the second "community" includes Turks ... then we will never unite, quite right. The Turks will all go back to turkey upon a just and fair settlement.

The Cypriots will be united, as they have always been, and the stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners. Do not assume any colonising Turks will be accepted into Cyprus-EU by this method ...

No, I meant TC's...

Then the "TCs" will NOT be considered as another "community" in a united Cyprus .. they will be like the rest of us - just Cypriots. The remaining Turks living in the north will have to de-colonise and go back to Turkey!

This is not Canada, this is Cyprus. There are definitely two communities with different religions, traditions and taboos. Here is an easy example: How many married couples; TC and GC, are there in this island?
The answer to this question very well explains why you are not ready to live together. You are separated in minds not in pieces of land...

However, I support your view although it doesn't look feasible for now

[Alpeis]

That coup was a democratic move in your perspective whereas Turkish intervention to save TC's under the threat of new developments in Cyprus was not.

Who said that the coup was a "democratic move"? Were any of the several coups that happened in Turkey a "democratic move"? Could a coup in Turkey be an excuse for another country to invade and occupy part of Turkey?

The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 before 20th of July when Turkey (with the help of TC extremists) invaded Cyprus. Therefore your claim that Turkey invaded in order to "save" the TCs is totally wrong. Turkey and TCs were planning partition since the 1950s, and they found the chance to invade when Greeks were busy fighting each other.

Ok then, what was the aim of the coup??? To bring peace to TCs and GCs?

The same as the coups that happened in Turkey. To forcefully remove the democratically elected government and replace it with another.

They were ready to kill all people who are in the opposite view. It's obvious that TC's wouldn't share the same opinion with the new military government and eventually share the same destiny of others.

I am ready to discuss these in person but not in here limited to words. We can arrange a time for a meeting so that everybody can share their views easily.