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[YFred]

You are unreal Get Real. From this point you will be known as UGR. They left of their own volition
I'll give it to you, you are very entertaining. 10 out of 10 for entertainment.

Admit it Y-Fronts... you've been wasted again!

I've got to get over my laughing fit regarding your and Kik baby's posts first before I can possibly comment. Not sure which one is more entertaining, you must be in a competition or something.

[Alpeis]

The sentiments TCs face in Turkey reflect pretty much what I dealt with when I moved to Greece in 1975, and I am half Greek (mother's side).

Things changed though when Cypriots proved that they had the balls to deal with adversity after 1974. The mainland Greeks had to admit that in a few years the Cypriots had saved their economy, regained their production, and surpassed Greece in terms of GNP per capita etc. Finally the EU accession process which Cyprus fulfilled ahead of schedule and the subsuequent adaptation to Europe proved that Cyprus were every bit as capapble as Greece.

The above should serve as a guide to TCs. Turkey is not in Cyprus to save you anymore than Greece was about to save the GCs in 1974. As long as you fall prey to the false notion that without Turkey you are insecure you are providing your oppressors with their most useful tool to keep you under their thumb.

If Turkey had the TCs welfare in mind they would do what Kikapu very aptly mentions above- they would campaign to make TC goods available to the market of 70 million that they so often mention to foreigners. The joke is that mainland Greek businesses have more access to the 70 million market than TCs have. This should tell you something, but No, you insist that you cannot do without them even when they are near to making you extinct in your own country. What can anyone say!

Nice comments. However, I think Turkish Cypriots are happy with what they have. They are already financially supported by Turkey in return for nothing. They really don't need to have access to foreign markets including Turkey. The system works very well as long as money flows to North Cyprus from Turkey.

On the other hand the island is in peace since 1974. To me, this island should never unite until people (sorry but especially Greek) are ready to live together. Turkish military should also leave here in any case. However, it doesn't seem viable with today's conditions.

I myself experience harsh difficulties owing to Greek hate towards Turkish. Nobody knows what I suffer. :..(

[Get Real!]

You are unreal Get Real. From this point you will be known as UGR. They left of their own volition
I'll give it to you, you are very entertaining. 10 out of 10 for entertainment.

Admit it Y-Fronts... you've been wasted again!

I've got to get over my laughing fit regarding your and Kik baby's posts first before I can possibly comment. Not sure which one is more entertaining, you must be in a competition or something.

Have a REALLY good laugh at all your lies...

“about to be slaughtered”

“when Lurucadis went to their rescue”

“Was TMT in Aysozomeno Bodamya or Dali encouraging the TCs to leave their land and move to Lurucina?”

“How many houses are there in Aysozomeno now? Why were they flattened?”

You're such a piece of shit...

[Alpeis]

It was a bit late in dawn when I wrote the post, the sentence "Perhaps I now know much more than Turkish Cypriots" should have been "Perhaps I now know much more than Turkish and Greek Cypriots".

Perhaps you're just an idiot wasting our time... Greek Cypriots have a saying:

"Ella bappou va sou dixo ta ambellia sou!"

...which roughly translates to...

"Come grandpa, I'll show you where your vineyards are!"

You came from Turkey in the 21st century so you can teach the Greek Cypriots about their 10,000 year old homeland?

Dude I definitely have no aim to teach anybody anything. I just try to be objective as much as I can. Generally people are imposed many ideas by politicians and media in their country therefore have a narrow perception of the facts. I am not one of those losers. I am open to every idea from any side.
It's crystal clear what has happened here. I only accept the facts and just try to arrange my life due to the present reality. There is no benefit in taking a side and try to impose my thoughts on others.

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Perhaps you're just an idiot wasting our time....[/quote]

This sentence gives a clue about you...As long as you have prejudices on people you will never manage to have a free mind. Don't take it offensive

[Alpeis]

Hi there Alpeis, I'm a Turkish Cypriot now studying in Australia. I coincidentally also studied at METU ( Electrical-Electronics Engineering). I did not graduate (dropped engineering altogether), I've recently moved back to Melbourne. I had many memories of how TC's were frowned upon by the average "Joe" Turk. The first thing a Taxi driver always asked you once he established you were a TC would be, "I hear that you Cypriots don't like Turks", I would hear this at least 80% of the time I took a Taxi anywhere. At a bus stop opposite the 6 th Dormitory, I was asked whether I was a Greek Cypriot upon telling a fellow student I was from Cyprus. Why? because I spoke slightly different.

I would classify most Turkish "intellects" views into two groups; The Nationalistic type, who would get nutty at you if you even thought slightly different them and the "We love the EU and would do anything to get in" ( usually business people) type who would sell their mothers for a buck.

Alpeis, most people in Turkey are poor and have much more important things to worry about. Just look at the internal political climate, corruption is so wide spread and you can get away with anything. The sad thing is that people see this as the norm. The only people who guard Cyprus in Turkey at the moment are the TAF, Erdogan would sell TC's off at a blink of an eye, if he had the chance .

Hi Umit, surprisingly enough I also dropped it (Metallurgical Engineering) I had a growing business but one day had to leave it all together with my wonderful life due to some reasons..
It's unbelievable and sad what you tell about your experiences in Turkey. However those losers live not only in Turkey but everywhere! I have Cypriot friends in Turkey and I really like them. They are really fun people.

As to the government, I have never trusted them and am waiting a surprise move over Cyprus until the end of this ongoing talks between two sides.

[Paphitis]

The sentiments TCs face in Turkey reflect pretty much what I dealt with when I moved to Greece in 1975, and I am half Greek (mother's side).

Things changed though when Cypriots proved that they had the balls to deal with adversity after 1974. The mainland Greeks had to admit that in a few years the Cypriots had saved their economy, regained their production, and surpassed Greece in terms of GNP per capita etc. Finally the EU accession process which Cyprus fulfilled ahead of schedule and the subsuequent adaptation to Europe proved that Cyprus were every bit as capapble as Greece.

The above should serve as a guide to TCs. Turkey is not in Cyprus to save you anymore than Greece was about to save the GCs in 1974. As long as you fall prey to the false notion that without Turkey you are insecure you are providing your oppressors with their most useful tool to keep you under their thumb.

If Turkey had the TCs welfare in mind they would do what Kikapu very aptly mentions above- they would campaign to make TC goods available to the market of 70 million that they so often mention to foreigners. The joke is that mainland Greek businesses have more access to the 70 million market than TCs have. This should tell you something, but No, you insist that you cannot do without them even when they are near to making you extinct in your own country. What can anyone say!

Nice comments. However, I think Turkish Cypriots are happy with what they have. They are already financially supported by Turkey in return for nothing. They really don't need to have access to foreign markets including Turkey. The system works very well as long as money flows to North Cyprus from Turkey.

On the other hand the island is in peace since 1974. To me, this island should never unite until people (sorry but especially Greek) are ready to live together. Turkish military should also leave here in any case. However, it doesn't seem viable with today's conditions.

I myself experience harsh difficulties owing to Greek hate towards Turkish. Nobody knows what I suffer. :..(

There is no "Greek hate" towards the TCs. There is a big hatred towards the occupation army, and the CT cronies who support this occupation and also towards the settlers that have no right to be in Cyprus.

Since you are just a Turkish dropout, don't come here telling us what you know about Cyprus, because quite clearly you don't know much, and you don't understand the TCs at all. You don't know the amount of suffering from GC refugees who can be excused for being angry, or the TCs that are pissed off with being hand fed by Turkey at the expense of their freedom. We now live in the 21st century, and the 60s and 70s are over with. We now have a future, as long as there is a democratic solution to our problems, otherwise we are back to square 1.

The only thing you have proven is the FACT that Turkey does not care about the TCs. Turkey has successfully brainwashed most TCs with fear, so that it can further its strategic and military interests on Cyprus. It is as simple as that.

People like you are destroying them, and Cyprus, so get out!

[Alpeis]

The sentiments TCs face in Turkey reflect pretty much what I dealt with when I moved to Greece in 1975, and I am half Greek (mother's side).

Things changed though when Cypriots proved that they had the balls to deal with adversity after 1974. The mainland Greeks had to admit that in a few years the Cypriots had saved their economy, regained their production, and surpassed Greece in terms of GNP per capita etc. Finally the EU accession process which Cyprus fulfilled ahead of schedule and the subsuequent adaptation to Europe proved that Cyprus were every bit as capapble as Greece.

The above should serve as a guide to TCs. Turkey is not in Cyprus to save you anymore than Greece was about to save the GCs in 1974. As long as you fall prey to the false notion that without Turkey you are insecure you are providing your oppressors with their most useful tool to keep you under their thumb.

If Turkey had the TCs welfare in mind they would do what Kikapu very aptly mentions above- they would campaign to make TC goods available to the market of 70 million that they so often mention to foreigners. The joke is that mainland Greek businesses have more access to the 70 million market than TCs have. This should tell you something, but No, you insist that you cannot do without them even when they are near to making you extinct in your own country. What can anyone say!

Nice comments. However, I think Turkish Cypriots are happy with what they have. They are already financially supported by Turkey in return for nothing. They really don't need to have access to foreign markets including Turkey. The system works very well as long as money flows to North Cyprus from Turkey.

On the other hand the island is in peace since 1974. To me, this island should never unite until people (sorry but especially Greek) are ready to live together. Turkish military should also leave here in any case. However, it doesn't seem viable with today's conditions.

I myself experience harsh difficulties owing to Greek hate towards Turkish. Nobody knows what I suffer. :..(

There is no "Greek hate" towards the TCs. There is a big hatred towards the occupation army, and the CT cronies who support this occupation and also towards the settlers that have no right to be in Cyprus.

Since you are just a Turkish dropout, don't come here telling us what you know about Cyprus, because quite clearly you don't know much, and you don't understand the TCs at all. You don't know the amount of suffering from GC refugees who can be excused for being angry, or the TCs that are pissed off with being hand fed by Turkey at the expense of their freedom.

The only thing you have proven is the FACT that Turkey does not care about the TCs. Turkey has successfully brainwashed most TCs with fear, so that it can further its strategic and military interests on Cyprus. It is as simple as that.

People like you are destroying them, and Cyprus, so get out!

There is no Greek hate towards Turkish citizens??? What does TC stand for btw? Turkish Cypriots I assume. I meant Turkish citizens not Turkish Cypriots... No civilian can be held responsible for what an army did. But you Greeks keep blaming us as a whole of the actions taken by our government and army.
I couldn't understand why people like me are destroying them as well. It's hard to understand your points...

On the other hand, I share the grieves of people who suffered a lot at the time due to the polarization, terror and war respectively. Finally in peace they are... Have you ever watched Atilla? If you did so, have you ever watched a documentary showing the grieves of Turkish Cypriots?

[Piratis]

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .

You can have your freedom and independence, no problem with that. Don't forget that you are the ones who came to Cyprus to enslave us, not the other way around. We never cared to limit your freedom in any way. What we always wanted is to gain our freedom from the foreign invaders, and rule our own island in a democratic way. Nothing more than that.

So the same way you can have your freedom and independence and you don't want to be dominated, can you please do the same with Kerynia, Famagusta, Morfou and all the other places which we inhabited for 1000s of years, and which you now enslaved and illegally dominated and you don't allow them to be free from you?

[Piratis]

No civilian can be held responsible for what an army did. But you Greeks keep blaming us as a whole of the actions taken by our government and army.

I don't exactly agree with that. No country (especially one which claims to be democratic) can illegally occupy part of another sovereign country for 35 years without any support from its own citizens. Clearly many (most?) Turks support the crimes of Turkey against Cyprus, and those that do share the responsibility for the crimes committed.