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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:00 pm

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Paphitis wrote:I know Kikapu very well, and I can assure you that he is a TC, democrat and international citizen.

If I ever had the misfortune to experience what he did (i.e being a captive/hostage), then the memories of such experiences would be very vivid indeed.

I doubt whether there are any other TCs on CF who would have had worse experiences than being a captive at Kaimakli.

And the inter communal violence disrupted his life in Cyprus, and it is these troubles that violently uprooted him from his homeland. He is just a big a victim as all the other GC refugees that were uprooted from their homes by the Turkish Army, and yet, he forgives.

The guy has a very big heart, and we see him on CF trying to fight for TC rights and a free and democratic Cyprus. All TCs and GCs really need to look up to him as a role model and humanitarian IMHO!

You question the fact that he is a TC. Perhaps your community does not deserve such a resistance fighter for your cause. We, the GCs are willing to claim him as our own, but I doubt he would want this as all he wants to do is stand up for what is right and ensure that the TCs have a future in Cyprus. Nothing would hurt him more than to see the TC culture being erased from Cyprus. This is what the Turkish Army is achieving and this is what he trying to fight against.


Paphitis,

You understand me very well, so I thank you.!

Others understand me well also, specially the Fascist NeoPartitionist on here, which is what makes them uncomfortable, because they have become part of the established "Culture of Corruption" in the north, just because they themselves have been enjoying the "Spoils of War" with the GCs properties, which many have, even though you do not hear anyone admitting it since they are cowards, which would invalidate all their excuses in wanting a Democratic future Cyprus. Along themselves, also members of their extended families and friends and colleagues have been enjoying the GC properties as well, so they fight me to protect them. Greed has overcome Morality for many in the north, and this is why the resistance by these Morally Corrupted individuals against me, because they understand me only too well, that I cannot be corrupted to accept them as they are, therefore they have only one view, "either you are with us, or against us" mentality, which was no different than TMT really, regardless of Rights and Wrongs. This makes me a threat to them by exposing them to what they are, which makes them uncomfortable with their conscience and subconscious minds, because HARAM is a very BIG taboo in the "Turkish" society, and this is what I remind them of everyday and they don't like it, that they are in fact, Morally Corrupted. The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time, because there is no other alternative to correct the abuses of HARAM by these individuals. Thank God Cyprus is in the EU, or else HARAM and Culture of Corruption would be here to stay forever in the north by contaminating future generations of young TCs minds. I think there is a GOD after all who seems to do things in mysterious ways, and I think one of it’s ways, is in the form of the EU, so to salvage these Morally Corrupted individuals. Amen to that.!


The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time


This is the only way forward as it is the only solution that is acceptable to the GCs. We must have FULL compliance with International Law, true democracy and human rights. All citizens must be EQUAL, or no cherry!


Paphitis, please suggest us a reason for which an invator who won a war and occupy a part of a country and having not any actual cost from the international commubity for this is to agree to such a wonderfull solution with the victim and unarmed on the other side?


I think it is the TCs that don't want to agree to such a solution. Turkey will eventually be faced with the inevitability of choosing the direction it will take - EAST or WEST! Full EU membership, or a bleak future as an Islamic Republic.

And the war is not over yet! We have a ceasefire, and in 35 years of occupation they have achieved absolutely nothing. The RoC has Turkey on the ropes with its EU accession bid, and the "trnc" will achieve as much recognition as Disneyland or The Principality of Hutt River... :lol:
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I know Kikapu very well, and I can assure you that he is a TC, democrat and international citizen.

If I ever had the misfortune to experience what he did (i.e being a captive/hostage), then the memories of such experiences would be very vivid indeed.

I doubt whether there are any other TCs on CF who would have had worse experiences than being a captive at Kaimakli.

And the inter communal violence disrupted his life in Cyprus, and it is these troubles that violently uprooted him from his homeland. He is just a big a victim as all the other GC refugees that were uprooted from their homes by the Turkish Army, and yet, he forgives.

The guy has a very big heart, and we see him on CF trying to fight for TC rights and a free and democratic Cyprus. All TCs and GCs really need to look up to him as a role model and humanitarian IMHO!

You question the fact that he is a TC. Perhaps your community does not deserve such a resistance fighter for your cause. We, the GCs are willing to claim him as our own, but I doubt he would want this as all he wants to do is stand up for what is right and ensure that the TCs have a future in Cyprus. Nothing would hurt him more than to see the TC culture being erased from Cyprus. This is what the Turkish Army is achieving and this is what he trying to fight against.


Paphitis,

You understand me very well, so I thank you.!

Others understand me well also, specially the Fascist NeoPartitionist on here, which is what makes them uncomfortable, because they have become part of the established "Culture of Corruption" in the north, just because they themselves have been enjoying the "Spoils of War" with the GCs properties, which many have, even though you do not hear anyone admitting it since they are cowards, which would invalidate all their excuses in wanting a Democratic future Cyprus. Along themselves, also members of their extended families and friends and colleagues have been enjoying the GC properties as well, so they fight me to protect them. Greed has overcome Morality for many in the north, and this is why the resistance by these Morally Corrupted individuals against me, because they understand me only too well, that I cannot be corrupted to accept them as they are, therefore they have only one view, "either you are with us, or against us" mentality, which was no different than TMT really, regardless of Rights and Wrongs. This makes me a threat to them by exposing them to what they are, which makes them uncomfortable with their conscience and subconscious minds, because HARAM is a very BIG taboo in the "Turkish" society, and this is what I remind them of everyday and they don't like it, that they are in fact, Morally Corrupted. The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time, because there is no other alternative to correct the abuses of HARAM by these individuals. Thank God Cyprus is in the EU, or else HARAM and Culture of Corruption would be here to stay forever in the north by contaminating future generations of young TCs minds. I think there is a GOD after all who seems to do things in mysterious ways, and I think one of it’s ways, is in the form of the EU, so to salvage these Morally Corrupted individuals. Amen to that.!


The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time


This is the only way forward as it is the only solution that is acceptable to the GCs. We must have FULL compliance with International Law, true democracy and human rights. All citizens must be EQUAL, or no cherry!


Paphitis, please suggest us a reason for which an invator who won a war and occupy a part of a country and having not any actual cost from the international commubity for this is to agree to such a wonderfull solution with the victim and unarmed on the other side?


I think it is the TCs that don't want to agree to such a solution. Turkey will eventually be faced with the inevitability of choosing the direction it will take - EAST or WEST! Full EU membership, or a bleak future as an Islamic Republic.


Therfore your concluson is that T/cs can make a decision themselves about the agreed solution?
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:13 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I know Kikapu very well, and I can assure you that he is a TC, democrat and international citizen.

If I ever had the misfortune to experience what he did (i.e being a captive/hostage), then the memories of such experiences would be very vivid indeed.

I doubt whether there are any other TCs on CF who would have had worse experiences than being a captive at Kaimakli.

And the inter communal violence disrupted his life in Cyprus, and it is these troubles that violently uprooted him from his homeland. He is just a big a victim as all the other GC refugees that were uprooted from their homes by the Turkish Army, and yet, he forgives.

The guy has a very big heart, and we see him on CF trying to fight for TC rights and a free and democratic Cyprus. All TCs and GCs really need to look up to him as a role model and humanitarian IMHO!

You question the fact that he is a TC. Perhaps your community does not deserve such a resistance fighter for your cause. We, the GCs are willing to claim him as our own, but I doubt he would want this as all he wants to do is stand up for what is right and ensure that the TCs have a future in Cyprus. Nothing would hurt him more than to see the TC culture being erased from Cyprus. This is what the Turkish Army is achieving and this is what he trying to fight against.


Paphitis,

You understand me very well, so I thank you.!

Others understand me well also, specially the Fascist NeoPartitionist on here, which is what makes them uncomfortable, because they have become part of the established "Culture of Corruption" in the north, just because they themselves have been enjoying the "Spoils of War" with the GCs properties, which many have, even though you do not hear anyone admitting it since they are cowards, which would invalidate all their excuses in wanting a Democratic future Cyprus. Along themselves, also members of their extended families and friends and colleagues have been enjoying the GC properties as well, so they fight me to protect them. Greed has overcome Morality for many in the north, and this is why the resistance by these Morally Corrupted individuals against me, because they understand me only too well, that I cannot be corrupted to accept them as they are, therefore they have only one view, "either you are with us, or against us" mentality, which was no different than TMT really, regardless of Rights and Wrongs. This makes me a threat to them by exposing them to what they are, which makes them uncomfortable with their conscience and subconscious minds, because HARAM is a very BIG taboo in the "Turkish" society, and this is what I remind them of everyday and they don't like it, that they are in fact, Morally Corrupted. The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time, because there is no other alternative to correct the abuses of HARAM by these individuals. Thank God Cyprus is in the EU, or else HARAM and Culture of Corruption would be here to stay forever in the north by contaminating future generations of young TCs minds. I think there is a GOD after all who seems to do things in mysterious ways, and I think one of it’s ways, is in the form of the EU, so to salvage these Morally Corrupted individuals. Amen to that.!


The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time


This is the only way forward as it is the only solution that is acceptable to the GCs. We must have FULL compliance with International Law, true democracy and human rights. All citizens must be EQUAL, or no cherry!


Paphitis, please suggest us a reason for which an invator who won a war and occupy a part of a country and having not any actual cost from the international commubity for this is to agree to such a wonderfull solution with the victim and unarmed on the other side?


I think it is the TCs that don't want to agree to such a solution. Turkey will eventually be faced with the inevitability of choosing the direction it will take - EAST or WEST! Full EU membership, or a bleak future as an Islamic Republic.


Therfore your concluson is that T/cs can make a decision themselves about the agreed solution?


The TCs have no say in the matter...BTW, I added another paragraph to my previous post, and you may wish to consider it with regards to your defunct opinion that Turkey has won a war that has not finished yet. :roll:
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:20 pm

Paphitis wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I know Kikapu very well, and I can assure you that he is a TC, democrat and international citizen.

If I ever had the misfortune to experience what he did (i.e being a captive/hostage), then the memories of such experiences would be very vivid indeed.

I doubt whether there are any other TCs on CF who would have had worse experiences than being a captive at Kaimakli.

And the inter communal violence disrupted his life in Cyprus, and it is these troubles that violently uprooted him from his homeland. He is just a big a victim as all the other GC refugees that were uprooted from their homes by the Turkish Army, and yet, he forgives.

The guy has a very big heart, and we see him on CF trying to fight for TC rights and a free and democratic Cyprus. All TCs and GCs really need to look up to him as a role model and humanitarian IMHO!

You question the fact that he is a TC. Perhaps your community does not deserve such a resistance fighter for your cause. We, the GCs are willing to claim him as our own, but I doubt he would want this as all he wants to do is stand up for what is right and ensure that the TCs have a future in Cyprus. Nothing would hurt him more than to see the TC culture being erased from Cyprus. This is what the Turkish Army is achieving and this is what he trying to fight against.


Paphitis,

You understand me very well, so I thank you.!

Others understand me well also, specially the Fascist NeoPartitionist on here, which is what makes them uncomfortable, because they have become part of the established "Culture of Corruption" in the north, just because they themselves have been enjoying the "Spoils of War" with the GCs properties, which many have, even though you do not hear anyone admitting it since they are cowards, which would invalidate all their excuses in wanting a Democratic future Cyprus. Along themselves, also members of their extended families and friends and colleagues have been enjoying the GC properties as well, so they fight me to protect them. Greed has overcome Morality for many in the north, and this is why the resistance by these Morally Corrupted individuals against me, because they understand me only too well, that I cannot be corrupted to accept them as they are, therefore they have only one view, "either you are with us, or against us" mentality, which was no different than TMT really, regardless of Rights and Wrongs. This makes me a threat to them by exposing them to what they are, which makes them uncomfortable with their conscience and subconscious minds, because HARAM is a very BIG taboo in the "Turkish" society, and this is what I remind them of everyday and they don't like it, that they are in fact, Morally Corrupted. The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time, because there is no other alternative to correct the abuses of HARAM by these individuals. Thank God Cyprus is in the EU, or else HARAM and Culture of Corruption would be here to stay forever in the north by contaminating future generations of young TCs minds. I think there is a GOD after all who seems to do things in mysterious ways, and I think one of it’s ways, is in the form of the EU, so to salvage these Morally Corrupted individuals. Amen to that.!


The only way to cleanse these Morally corrupted individuals minds is by establishing a True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws for Cyprus and that’s what I’m fighting for, and that’s what will happen in due time


This is the only way forward as it is the only solution that is acceptable to the GCs. We must have FULL compliance with International Law, true democracy and human rights. All citizens must be EQUAL, or no cherry!


Paphitis, please suggest us a reason for which an invator who won a war and occupy a part of a country and having not any actual cost from the international commubity for this is to agree to such a wonderfull solution with the victim and unarmed on the other side?


I think it is the TCs that don't want to agree to such a solution. Turkey will eventually be faced with the inevitability of choosing the direction it will take - EAST or WEST! Full EU membership, or a bleak future as an Islamic Republic.


Therfore your concluson is that T/cs can make a decision themselves about the agreed solution?


The TCs have no say in the matter...BTW, I added another paragraph to my previous post, and you may wish to consider it with regards to your defunct opinion that Turkey has won a war that has not finished yet. :roll:


I may agree with you that war has not finished yet but what is seem to be close to finish is our part resistance on basic affairs which personally i considered the worst result of the invasion in G/cs community.

We had the enemy in our villages and we are trying still to find who we are!!!!!!!!
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