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What does the community in Turkey know about Cyprus?

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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:42 am

halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!
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Postby YFred » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:21 am

halil wrote:Turkish citizans from Turkey they can just come upto front of the Turkish Cypriots check point to look towards the Greek Cypriots Check point and take some pictures thats all they can do . In most cases i witnessed Greek Cypriots are scares to talks mainland Turks(Especialy young generations) . Properly he met the GC girl in UK .

All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.

Halil you know very well that the moment you mention the fact that as a TC you would like to live without being dominated by the GCs, you upset all extreme GCs including Kikapoo. :lol: :lol:
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Postby halil » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:36 am

Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .
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Re: What does the community in Turkey know about Cyprus?

Postby EPSILON » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:41 am

halil wrote:
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Alpeis wrote:Hello friends, this is my first post to the forum and I do hope to see rational and constructive comments. :wink:

I am a Turkish citizen and have moved to North Cyprus nearly two years ago. My move was supposed to be temporary for a 6-months period, but things developed in a very different way (I fell in love with a Greek girl, but it's another story) than I expected, therefore I had to stay until now. I noticed that I hadn't know anything about Cyprus, Cyprus issue and the history of Cyprus before I came to Cyprus. I would like to mention that I grew up in a highly educated environment, went to the top schools and the top university; METU, in Turkey and eventually consider myself an intellectual.
At the beginning, many issues I read in the newspapers or heard from others were all Greek to me. Afterwards, I searched the web in detail to learn what happened in Cyprus: I first delved into the web pages of Greek origin, then of Turkish origin and finally checked the third party reviews and information about Cyprus history.
Now, I know a lot about the history of the island. Perhaps I now know much more than Turkish Cypriots, but what about Turkish people, what do they think/know about the Cyprus problem. I can easily say that the majority (perhaps %95) of people in Turkey has no single idea about what has happened here and what is going on now.
Let me tell you what they know about here. Whenever I go to Turkey, I always have a chat with cab drivers especially after landing the airport. What they and other people ask me about Cyprus is always the same!
Here are their questions and comments on Cyprus:

-Is it true that Turkish Cypriots don't like us?
-I don't understand why Turkey transfers money to Turkish Cypriots, we are wasting a lot of money for them.

This two sentences above are the only things Turks consider about Cyprus. Consequently, Turkish community in Turkey knows a big NOTHING over Cyprus.

I believe this fact is very important for both communities.


Cyprus Forum'a Hoş Geldiniz diyorum

You call yourself an intellectual and come up with statements as such?
How can you say you know Cyprus better than a Turkish Cypriot. Are you nuts? :lol: (You just admitted you knew nothing untill recently from the net.)

You would do well to ask yourself the questıons above and see what answers you come up wıth!!

I have been to Turkey many times and my reception there is less than friendly. When I say I am from Cyprus the response is 'Are you Greek?'.
When I try to explain that I am Turkish Cypriot the usual response is 'gavur dölü'. Now figure out to yourself why some TCs 'hate' or dislike mainland Turks.

It is admirable that you fell in love with a Greek Cypriot girl. It is unavoidable and good luck. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
where he met the Greek Cypriot girl ?


Be careful on your reply to Halil- Turkish intelligence services intervene here.!!!!!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:53 am

halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!
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Postby halil » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:18 pm

Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!


Kikosh ,
u are only manipulator . At both sides there is always extreme political parties . They can say anything .They don't have any power to force the people . People are freely describe themself how they feel . Today this goverment will be in this power next day another will be .No one can change Turkish Cypriots or Turkish Cypriot terms even u can not .

In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....

Also Bayrak International Annoucements just says :This is Bayrak International ..... The Voice of The Turkish Cypriots .
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Postby YFred » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!

Kiks, you talk a lot crap sometimes. We all believe in Democracy, Human rights and International law. But, GC domination of the TCs is not and will never be part of that set-up. You talk about Human rights. Where was your legal and legitimate government and their implementation of human rights when Aysozomeno was surrounded by the relatives of certain members on this forum after 63 about to be slaughtered when Lurucadis went to their rescue. Was TMT in Aysozomeno Bodamya or Dali encouraging the TCs to leave their land and move to Lurucina? Like hell it was. They felt they would be killed and left everything behind and sought refuge where they could. In the case of Aysozomeno they were surrounded about to be killed. How many houses are there in Aysozomeno now? Why were they flattened? is it covered under GC human rights?
Write to N Kizilyurek and ask him why his family moved from Bodamya to Lurucina after 63.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:42 pm

halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!


Kikosh ,
u are only manipulator . At both sides there is always extreme political parties . They can say anything .They don't have any power to force the people . People are freely describe themself how they feel . Today this goverment will be in this power next day another will be .No one can change Turkish Cypriots or Turkish Cypriot terms even u can not .

In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....

Also Bayrak International Annoucements just says :This is Bayrak International ..... The Voice of The Turkish Cypriots .


In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....


I try not read anything from any news organisations that does not practice any Journalistic Integrity by not giving us the facts, but rather their propaganda opinions, such as what your company Bayrak does, which is only good for Brain Dead NeoPartitionist. That is not news but garbage, which belongs in the comments and opinion sections and not the news section..!
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Postby halil » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:53 pm

Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!


Kikosh ,
u are only manipulator . At both sides there is always extreme political parties . They can say anything .They don't have any power to force the people . People are freely describe themself how they feel . Today this goverment will be in this power next day another will be .No one can change Turkish Cypriots or Turkish Cypriot terms even u can not .

In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....

Also Bayrak International Annoucements just says :This is Bayrak International ..... The Voice of The Turkish Cypriots .


In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....


I try not read anything from any news organisations that does not practice any Journalistic Integrity by not giving us the facts, but rather their propaganda opinions, such as what your company Bayrak does, which is only good for Brain Dead NeoPartitionist. That is not news but garbage, which belongs in the comments and opinion sections and not the news section..!


I just laugh .......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is the man who talks about democracy and freedom ..... he thinks he is the one always right .

I just laugh at u ....... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:02 pm

halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
All they knows they safe us and we owe our lifes for them . They never knows ... we , the Turkish Cypriots had great struggle to have our own identities since they rented the island to British .
They can not accept our independance . As a Turkish Cypriot myself i would like to live independance from Turkey ,Greece and Greek Cypriots domination . I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


rented the island to British .


Rented.! Is this the next propaganda from Bayrak.?

As a Turkish Cypriot myself


Sorry Halil, but as long as you support your "government" in the north, you are no longer a TC but a CT, a Cyprus Turk. Learn to live with it.!

I would like to live Federal Republic of Cyprus umberalla as equal partner with GC's.


There is no such thing as "equal partners", Halil. Equal citizen YES, but there is no such thing as a equal partner when it comes to running a country by it's own people. It is not a business venture, and even if it was, the TCs would only qualify as a very junior partner in what it is that they would bring to the venture, therefore, stick to equal citizenship, since this way, you are also a 100% owners of Cyprus. I don't want to hear your Bayrak's propaganda shit all the time, who does not even see you as a TC, but a CT. I'm amazed that you can still respect them to carry out their propaganda for them. I understand that you need to make a living, but please Halil, don't become a whore to them all the time.!


Kikosh ,
I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......

Try to watch out your language all the time .

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .

Independent from everybody comes first . If I am independent i can built up my living how i wanna be . No Turkey , No Greece , No GC's domination's on us .


I don't know whose propaganda u are or whose whore u are ......


I'm a propagandist and a whore to True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. There's no greater cause than being a whore to the above principles.!

My freedom and what i feel comes first Kikosh . Not what u are trying to dictate on me .


I'm not dictating anything to you. It is your "government" that you support who is telling you that you are no longer a TC. As long as you support and work for them, you are a CT as far they are concerned. Who am I to argue with them, if you want to whore away your TC heritage to your "government".!


Kikosh ,
u are only manipulator . At both sides there is always extreme political parties . They can say anything .They don't have any power to force the people . People are freely describe themself how they feel . Today this goverment will be in this power next day another will be .No one can change Turkish Cypriots or Turkish Cypriot terms even u can not .

In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....

Also Bayrak International Annoucements just says :This is Bayrak International ..... The Voice of The Turkish Cypriots .


In pratic mostly used word is Turkish Cypriot . U are the one saying u can read Turkish . Are u following lately our press .... what kind of expression they are using shows us .....


I try not read anything from any news organisations that does not practice any Journalistic Integrity by not giving us the facts, but rather their propaganda opinions, such as what your company Bayrak does, which is only good for Brain Dead NeoPartitionist. That is not news but garbage, which belongs in the comments and opinion sections and not the news section..!


I just laugh .......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is the man who talks about democracy and freedom ..... he thinks he is the one always right .

I just laugh at u ....... :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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