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Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:08 pm

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brother wrote:Under E.U regulations all E.U citizens can go where they like in cyprus dispite whatever port or airport they entered from.


but the north is not recognised by anybody and it is not an EU country. only the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU. Bro you sure your right??


I am afraid he is...


not taking a stab at him i just didnt think you could
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:14 pm

demetriou_74 wrote:
brother wrote:Under E.U regulations all E.U citizens can go where they like in cyprus dispite whatever port or airport they entered from.


but the north is not recognised by anybody and it is not an EU country. only the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU. Bro you sure your right??


Legally the north is part of the EU as the area is recognised as being part of the RoC territory, although the acquis are suspended due to the area being beyond the RoC government's control.

I'm not entirely sure how this would work practically, I've heard different things from different people with some saying that you could do the overland route and take the ferry to Kyrenia and then cross the line and others saying such a crossing would not be allowed. However, although EU citizens have the de facto right to cross unhindered (even if they have used an 'illegal port of entry'), I'm not sure that this will apply to their vehicles. So, it may result in people being able to cross on foot and leave their vehicles on the other side.

I guess it just depends on how the rules are interpreted.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:35 pm

Legally the north is part of the EU as the area is recognised as being part of the RoC territory, although the acquis are suspended due to the area being beyond the RoC government's control.


Yes, and I believe (but I might be wrong) the logic is that EU citizens are allowed to move freely within EU and they don't need to enter other EU countries from ports. So you could take your boat and land on a French beach and this would be perfectly legal. So basically it simply doesn't matter how you enter another EU country as long as you are an EU citizen.
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:40 pm

Piratis wrote:Yes, and I believe (but I might be wrong) the logic is that EU citizens are allowed to move freely within EU and they don't need to enter other EU countries from ports. So you could take your boat and land on a French beach and this would be perfectly legal. So basically it simply doesn't matter how you enter another EU country as long as you are an EU citizen.


I think it depends on whether the country is part of Schengen or not. There is complete freedom of movement within the Schengen area, but movement is still subject to checks (at least in theory, often not in practice) between non-Schengen EU states and from Schengen to non-Schengen.
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Postby Michael Coumas » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:53 pm

sk, If I am not mistaken there was a ferry from Pireaus to Cyprus as far back as the 1950's and 1960's and probably beyond. Relatives of mine who had business interests in Cyprus and England at the time often used it to transport themselves and their vehicles to and from both countries, a long and arduous journey at the time given the distance to cover, speed attainable and quality of road surface throughout Continental Europe. I am led to believe it no longer runs, I am not certain however if it has run since 1974 but I guess it certainly would be a welcome means of crossing to Greece assuming the cost was commensurate with the time it took, over and above that of flying.
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Postby sk » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:01 pm

yes ,u r right,it did exist but i assume that when people got more used to the plane they stopped using it.i know that the two ministries responsible for this(greek and cypriot)have discussed this issue but i dont know what they decided. it would be nice if it existed for people like me who r scared of planes and travel often(a god knows how many pills i take everytime i travel)
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Postby Svetlana » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:59 am

The ferries are commencing the 26th June.

Limassol, Rhodes, Piraeus.

Car will have to be accompanied by the driver.


Anyone attempting to the RoC having arrived via the North, would probably not be allowed in, EU citzen or not. The Border Police like to 'interpret' policy here!

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Postby cannedmoose » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:24 pm

Svetlana wrote:The ferries are commencing the 26th June.

Limassol, Rhodes, Piraeus.

Car will have to be accompanied by the driver.


Anyone attempting to the RoC having arrived via the North, would probably not be allowed in, EU citzen or not. The Border Police like to 'interpret' policy here!

Lana



Which ferry company Lana? Do they have a website?
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Postby city » Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:42 pm

hm, Salamis is still not going :-(

http://www.cruisecyprus.com/ferry.htm
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Postby Michael Coumas » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:08 pm

sk - You have my deepest sympathy, some may sneer or smirk at a fear or phobia but to the person concerned it must be terrifying. I was never fond of sea snakes and had a sub sea contract in the Persian Gulf some years ago where at night the work lights seemed to attract every sea snake for miles direct to me. To say I kept one eye on them & one on the job would be an understatement.

Svetlana - Any further information would be most appreciated, I left Limassol on 12 June & had no idea that the service was about to start. I even had dinner at the home of a Customs Clearing & Forwarding Agent a couple of days before leaving the Island and had no idea. I would be more than interested in knowing more.
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