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[Oracle]

Turkey - can ever be a normal democratic country?

Funny, coming from someone living and believing in Greece…


Greece’s Human Rights Portfolio…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

If you go through human rights statements i am not sure thatr you can find even one country be 100% ok but the point here is the general picture and daily life in a state.If you-for the known phycholigical reasons-compare Greece with Turkey then pls explain how it comes EU to still negotiate with Turkey to change its fascists laws .

But as i said before life is fair. which means "na sou zisei o kalamaras gapros h kalamarou nimfi se liga xronia!!!!

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

[Get Real!]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

[Oracle]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

[Get Real!]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

If international law is subject to relativity thereby making all these Greek issues insignificant…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…then good luck convincing the world of Turkish HR abuses on Cyprus!

It seems that shooting ourselves in the foot has become our favorite pastime…

[Oracle]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

If international law is subject to relativity thereby making all these Greek issues insignificant…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…then good luck convincing the world of Turkish HR abuses on Cyprus!

It seems that shooting ourselves in the foot has become our favorite pastime…

Stop trying to wiggle out of what is REALLY under discussion ... or I shall seriously doubt your capacity to act in context.

You, out of the blue, brought up the idea of:... “good” HR abuses ... which begs the qualifier that none would be "good" if they were also "abuses".

However, that crimes take on a relative criminality goes without saying since upon judgement, punishments are dished out accordingly. That is to say; "punishment fits the crime", if only by "time".

So, though an Embassy may issue strong warnings against travelling to Country X with drugs, for personal use, because torture followed by beheading may interfere with your freedom of expression; it is less likely to issue that same warning if travelling to Country Y if the worst that country does (according to its Human Rights abuses web-link), is have you hanging around for 24 hours in decrepit prison conditions ...

But, less important than any of that - because they should not need spelling out to anyone - is your worrying condition, of "missing the point".

[Get Real!]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

If international law is subject to relativity thereby making all these Greek issues insignificant…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…then good luck convincing the world of Turkish HR abuses on Cyprus!

It seems that shooting ourselves in the foot has become our favorite pastime…

Stop trying to wiggle out of what is REALLY under discussion ... or I shall seriously doubt your capacity to act in context.

You, out of the blue, brought up the idea of:... “good” HR abuses ... which begs the qualifier that none would be "good" if they were also "abuses".

However, that crimes take on a relative criminality goes without saying since upon judgement, punishments are dished out accordingly. That is to say; "punishment fits the crime", if only by "time".

So, though an Embassy may issue strong warnings against travelling to Country X with drugs, for personal use, because torture followed by beheading may interfere with your freedom of expression; it is less likely to issue that same warning if travelling to Country Y if the worst that country does (according to its Human Rights abuses web-link), is have you hanging around for 24 hours in decrepit prison conditions ...

But, less important than any of that - because they should not need spelling out to anyone - is your worrying condition, of "missing the point".

If international law is ambiguous like you're foolishly suggesting, then who decides if they’re “valid” or “invalid” HR abuses… the Greeks?

Move along Oracle and quit stabbing Cyprus in the heart all the time...

[Oracle]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

If international law is subject to relativity thereby making all these Greek issues insignificant…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…then good luck convincing the world of Turkish HR abuses on Cyprus!

It seems that shooting ourselves in the foot has become our favorite pastime…

Stop trying to wiggle out of what is REALLY under discussion ... or I shall seriously doubt your capacity to act in context.

You, out of the blue, brought up the idea of:... “good” HR abuses ... which begs the qualifier that none would be "good" if they were also "abuses".

However, that crimes take on a relative criminality goes without saying since upon judgement, punishments are dished out accordingly. That is to say; "punishment fits the crime", if only by "time".

So, though an Embassy may issue strong warnings against travelling to Country X with drugs, for personal use, because torture followed by beheading may interfere with your freedom of expression; it is less likely to issue that same warning if travelling to Country Y if the worst that country does (according to its Human Rights abuses web-link), is have you hanging around for 24 hours in decrepit prison conditions ...

But, less important than any of that - because they should not need spelling out to anyone - is your worrying condition, of "missing the point".

If international law is ambiguous like you're foolishly suggesting, then who decides if they’re “valid” or “invalid” HR abuses… the Greeks?

Move along Oracle and quit stabbing Cyprus in the heart all the time...

Where did I suggest International Law is ambiguous ? ... Oh but I forgot you are displaying disassociation from reality these days. You don't seem to be able to draw a distinction between the act (crime) and the punishment (Law).

Knowing that some crimes/abuses hurt humans more than others comes with experience, usually felt the first time one falls over, or getting smacked for stealing a cookie .... but maybe you lived a rarefied childhood in a safe bubble, or alternatively, knew nothing but pain!

So, if it causes you distress to draw distinctions between Turkey's Human Rights abuses and those of Greece ... then feel free to hate Greece ... but that is your shortcoming, and not Greece's! Even a nine year old can understand ranks ... or maybe it's your aversion to pi charts!

And, as for your accusation of "stabbing Cyprus in the heart" ... I am not giving you a free ticket to get out of your mess by reverting to telling me that just because I am Greek Cypriot, I am the cause of all its woes, whereas you the abuser of our fellow EU-member and ally, and denier of the rights of 80% of the Cypriot population, are somehow doing us proud.

[Get Real!]

Both Turkey & Greece are Human Rights abusers period!

So quit making fools of your selves with double standards all the time by only pointing the finger at Turkey, because there’s no such thing as “good” HR abuses!

If you ever manage to get both halves of your brain communicating with each other, you may find life is a colourful, rational world of relativity. Rather more complex than what you seem to be exhibiting, which is some simple computer programme that fails to demonstrate intelligence in discerning gradations .....

I had no idea international law was subject to relativity…

There you go again! Half a brain engaged!

Since all countries have some Human Rights abuses, it stands to reason that some countries are relatively better observers of laws than others.

And, some forms of abuse are worse than others! Keeping a few illegal immigrants waiting for a month without extradition dates ranks pretty low compared to selling girls to Arabs, for example!

But, I know you can think all this out for yourself; you just seem to have endless energy to burn these days just to have people state the bleeding obvious to you as though you had regressed to some childhood state ....

If international law is subject to relativity thereby making all these Greek issues insignificant…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…then good luck convincing the world of Turkish HR abuses on Cyprus!

It seems that shooting ourselves in the foot has become our favorite pastime…

Stop trying to wiggle out of what is REALLY under discussion ... or I shall seriously doubt your capacity to act in context.

You, out of the blue, brought up the idea of:... “good” HR abuses ... which begs the qualifier that none would be "good" if they were also "abuses".

However, that crimes take on a relative criminality goes without saying since upon judgement, punishments are dished out accordingly. That is to say; "punishment fits the crime", if only by "time".

So, though an Embassy may issue strong warnings against travelling to Country X with drugs, for personal use, because torture followed by beheading may interfere with your freedom of expression; it is less likely to issue that same warning if travelling to Country Y if the worst that country does (according to its Human Rights abuses web-link), is have you hanging around for 24 hours in decrepit prison conditions ...

But, less important than any of that - because they should not need spelling out to anyone - is your worrying condition, of "missing the point".

If international law is ambiguous like you're foolishly suggesting, then who decides if they’re “valid” or “invalid” HR abuses… the Greeks?

Move along Oracle and quit stabbing Cyprus in the heart all the time...

Where did I suggest International Law is ambiguous ? ... Oh but I forgot you are displaying disassociation from reality these days. You don't seem to be able to draw a distinction between the act (crime) and the punishment (Law).

Knowing that some crimes/abuses hurt humans more than others comes with experience, usually felt the first time one falls over, or getting smacked for stealing a cookie .... but maybe you lived a rarefied childhood in a safe bubble, or alternatively, knew nothing but pain!

So, if it causes you distress to draw distinctions between Turkey's Human Rights abuses and those of Greece ... then feel free to hate Greece ... but that is your shortcoming, and not Greece's! Even a nine year old can understand ranks ... or maybe it's your aversion to pi charts!

And, as for your accusation of "stabbing Cyprus in the heart" ... I am not giving you a free ticket to get out of your mess by reverting to telling me that just because I am Greek Cypriot, I am the cause of all its woes, whereas you the abuser of our fellow EU-member and ally, and denier of the rights of 80% of the Cypriot population, are somehow doing us proud.

Woman, I don’t know what the hell you’re waffling on about…

At the end of the day there’s nothing you or anyone else can possibly say to justify this…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…and that’s all that matters.

[Oracle]

Woman, I don’t know what the hell you’re waffling on about…

At the end of the day there’s nothing you or anyone else can possibly say to justify this…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…and that’s all that matters.

You are a lost cause ....

.... just like the TCs.

[Get Real!]

Woman, I don’t know what the hell you’re waffling on about…

At the end of the day there’s nothing you or anyone else can possibly say to justify this…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

…and that’s all that matters.

You are a lost cause ....

.... just like the TCs.

I never lose sight of an issue Oracle, no matter how hard you try to cloud things...