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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:12 am

Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:00 am

miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:36 am

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miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.


WHich of those things you just listed above requires setting up a Greek Republic of Cyprus in order to carry out?
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:57 am

DT. wrote:
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miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.


WHich of those things you just listed above requires setting up a Greek Republic of Cyprus in order to carry out?


As i have many times advised my signature here (being an individual's one) is just a verbal reaction to the T side official position of "TRNC". I never supported a Greek state in Cyprus but the simple thing a democratic state where citizens have exactly the same rights. (not 5 G/c vote= 1 T/c/settlers and others votes).

as i stated before i will change immdly this signature the day Turkish side announce following ROC'S regulations and establishment
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Postby DT. » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:15 pm

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EPSILON wrote:
miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.


WHich of those things you just listed above requires setting up a Greek Republic of Cyprus in order to carry out?


As i have many times advised my signature here (being an individual's one) is just a verbal reaction to the T side official position of "TRNC". I never supported a Greek state in Cyprus but the simple thing a democratic state where citizens have exactly the same rights. (not 5 G/c vote= 1 T/c/settlers and others votes).

as i stated before i will change immdly this signature the day Turkish side announce following ROC'S regulations and establishment


Has it crossed your mind that the only way for a "trnc" to exist is for a Greek Republic of Cyprus to exist beside it?
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:17 pm

And in addition to my above maybe is time G/cs politicians to create /demand positions which to be finally given up on the negotiation table without affecting their real red lines.
Maybe is time G/cs politicians to take some lessons from Turks strageties.
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:19 pm

DT. wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.


WHich of those things you just listed above requires setting up a Greek Republic of Cyprus in order to carry out?


As i have many times advised my signature here (being an individual's one) is just a verbal reaction to the T side official position of "TRNC". I never supported a Greek state in Cyprus but the simple thing a democratic state where citizens have exactly the same rights. (not 5 G/c vote= 1 T/c/settlers and others votes).

as i stated before i will change immdly this signature the day Turkish side announce following ROC'S regulations and establishment


Has it crossed your mind that the only way for a "trnc" to exist is for a Greek Republic of Cyprus to exist beside it?


I thing you did not get my point- i repeat the singature is mine-one individual's reaction-is not a policy suggestion is not a target.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:26 pm

EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Trators becuase we do not like partnership with the settlers, their superiors and their co-operators.Trators because we do not like to sign an agreement providing control of our country by the invator.
Trators because we do not approve the changed of our Ethnicity under the pressure of the invasion.

Lets re-study the meaning of traitor as word.


WHich of those things you just listed above requires setting up a Greek Republic of Cyprus in order to carry out?


As i have many times advised my signature here (being an individual's one) is just a verbal reaction to the T side official position of "TRNC". I never supported a Greek state in Cyprus but the simple thing a democratic state where citizens have exactly the same rights. (not 5 G/c vote= 1 T/c/settlers and others votes).

as i stated before i will change immdly this signature the day Turkish side announce following ROC'S regulations and establishment


Has it crossed your mind that the only way for a "trnc" to exist is for a Greek Republic of Cyprus to exist beside it?


I thing you did not get my point- i repeat the singature is mine-one individual's reaction-is not a policy suggestion is not a target.


fair enough.
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Postby Byron » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:36 pm

miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Please refrain from using defamatory remarks such as traitor. Please support your theory with proof. regarding partition. Please do not make wild accusations !!!!
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:43 am

Byron wrote:
miltiades wrote:Let me come in on this debate . Cyprus is , as we know and as we constantly tell the world , an independent nation with its own international identity .Those supporters of partition , Epsilon and Byron amongst them , are traitors to the Cyprus cause . The fact that the G/Cs number the highest doesn't change the fact that Cyprus is an independent nation.
To openly support the Turkish mainland position that there are two nations in Cyprus , the Greek and Turkish , is an insult to all Cypriot loving people be it G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others.


Please refrain from using defamatory remarks such as traitor. Please support your theory with proof. regarding partition. Please do not make wild accusations !!!!



Unfortunately the word 'Traito' is used like confetti by some forumers. Miltiades has been one of the first forumers targetted by this unpleasantness. I know Miltiades and find it 'obnoxious that anyone can use that word towards him. One called him a 'traitor' simply because he has Turkish Cypriot friends. Thats logic for you.

All of us could do better by not using such 'epithets'.
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