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[denizaksulu]

Funnily enough I discovered this article sent to me by a friend (she wrote it I think).

http://www.thelastdividedcapital.com/20 ... -the-land/

It has a lot of truth and speaks about Ismet Guney.

Regards,
The Unifier

Somehow ... I don't think you are being entirely honest with us "The Unifier" .....

You've plastered this Blog all over the forum ......

[Did your "friend" ask you to do this?]

I suspect, he is his friend. Another 'Schizo'.

[Byron]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Touch my flag and I'll be looking for a place to put my flagpole up.

You can keep your silly flag !!!

[Oracle]

That beautiful flag complements the National anthem so well ...

[halil]

RIP

Did he ever get paid?

I remember a topic about this a couple of years ago

In the obituary on TV there was an interview with him. He said that he never painted for money he simply painted for pleasure. No mention was made of the Flag of the Republic.

I think Halil is still too upset to have missed this news item.

Why should i get upset Deniz . I was not in Cyprus ..... I got the news just now . Allah Rahmet Eylesin . (RIP)

[yialousa1971]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Yes I agree, where is the cross, this flag is better.




or this

[Kifeas]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Byron, I suppose you do not mind the idea of forever losing half of your country, as long as you are able to freely wave "Hellenic" flags in the remaining half of it. However, this is clearly not a preference the vast majority of Greek Cypriots have, and they (we) instead prefer to compromise on such a nonsensical and idiotic idea for the sake of being able to freely enjoy the whole of their (our) historical homeland. Your idea and preference is a dead end one, for it inevitably leads to the permanent lose of 50% of our country.

Let me also remind you that when Onisilos was liberating Cyprus from the Persians, he did not have that (Greek) flag as his symbol. When Pericles was establishing democracy in Athens and setting the founding stones of what makes us Greeks proud of our heritage, i.e. the universally admired ancient Greek civilization and the cradle of the modern Western one; he did not use, nor had this flag in his mind as a symbol. Neither Miltiades did, when he was defeating the Persians in Marathon, nor Leonidas in Thermopylae. The Greek flag is only a fairly recent invention, and represents the modern mainland Greek state. It does not represent the overall Greek world, nor the diachronic Greek Civilization and the ancient Hellenic spirit, for the simple reason that it did not exist at the time. Furthermore, the Modern Greek flag incorporates Christian religious symbolism, which in fact -when first appeared on Greek soil, vandalized or eradicated all the elements and landmarks of the ancient Hellenic spirit and civilization, one of the prime examples of which is the destruction of Parthenon and Acropolis. It is only thanks to the Arabs, that kept and preserved it, that we Greeks came to know about it today.

I suggest you go and educate yourself a bit, silly boy, for I and the majority of Greek Cypriots surely prefer to be able to take our Children to a proud and a free trip to Salamina, Soloi, St. Barnabas, Kyrenia, St. Hilarion, Kantara and all the other landmarks of our historical past, than to be denied of them for the sake of being able to wave a flag that represents another nation-state, no matter how brotherly we feel about it.

You just need to always remember that the choice is not between this (Greek) and / or another flag; but rather (whether we like it or not) one between this flag and / or your country as a whole -instead of only the 50% of it.

[Paphitis]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Yes I agree, where is the cross, this flag is better.




or this

The flags above with their cross representing Byzantium and the Greek Orthodox Church has absolutely no right of passage in a modern free Cyprus.

Such archaic symbolic rubbish connecting the state with religion and forever allowing the backward clerics to have a political say with the way Cyprus is governed, is just not on.

The current Cyprus flag is here to stay. A truly secular flag encompassing ALL citizens.

[Kikapu]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Yes I agree, where is the cross, this flag is better.




or this

The flags above with their cross representing Byzantium and the Greek Orthodox Church has absolutely no right of passage in a modern free Cyprus.

Such archaic symbolic rubbish connecting the state with religion and forever allowing the backward clerics to have a political say with the way Cyprus is governed, is just not on.

The current Cyprus flag is here to stay. A truly secular flag encompassing ALL citizens.

Agree with you, Paphitis. The only problem is, for the last 4 decades, the TCs have been made to hate the Cyprus flag for propaganda purpose to label is as a "GC flag" in search for official partition, therefore, it is going to be very hard for some to come to terms with the official RoC flag which is recognised by the world all over. The present "trnc" flag after a solution will become like the Confederation flag in the states, where it will not have any official status, but will be guarded by the NeoPartitionist as their symbol to gain their official partition sometime in the future, just as the Red Necks and the Racists still do in the southern states in the USA with the Confederation Flag..

[Byron]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Byron, I suppose you do not mind the idea of forever losing half of your country, as long as you are able to freely wave "Hellenic" flags in the remaining half of it. However, this is clearly not a preference the vast majority of Greek Cypriots have, and they (we) instead prefer to compromise on such a nonsensical and idiotic idea for the sake of being able to freely enjoy the whole of their (our) historical homeland. Your idea and preference is a dead end one, for it inevitably leads to the permanent lose of 50% of our country.

Let me also remind you that when Onisilos was liberating Cyprus from the Persians, he did not have that (Greek) flag as his symbol. When Pericles was establishing democracy in Athens and setting the founding stones of what makes us Greeks proud of our heritage, i.e. the universally admired ancient Greek civilization and the cradle of the modern Western one; he did not use, nor had this flag in his mind as a symbol. Neither Miltiades did, when he was defeating the Persians in Marathon, nor Leonidas in Thermopylae. The Greek flag is only a fairly recent invention, and represents the modern mainland Greek state. It does not represent the overall Greek world, nor the diachronic Greek Civilization and the ancient Hellenic spirit, for the simple reason that it did not exist at the time. Furthermore, the Modern Greek flag incorporates Christian religious symbolism, which in fact -when first appeared on Greek soil, vandalized or eradicated all the elements and landmarks of the ancient Hellenic spirit and civilization, one of the prime examples of which is the destruction of Parthenon and Acropolis. It is only thanks to the Arabs, that kept and preserved it, that we Greeks came to know about it today.

I suggest you go and educate yourself a bit, silly boy, for I and the majority of Greek Cypriots surely prefer to be able to take our Children to a proud and a free trip to Salamina, Soloi, St. Barnabas, Kyrenia, St. Hilarion, Kantara and all the other landmarks of our historical past, than to be denied of them for the sake of being able to wave a flag that represents another nation-state, no matter how brotherly we feel about it.

You just need to always remember that the choice is not between this (Greek) and / or another flag; but rather (whether we like it or not) one between this flag and / or your country as a whole -instead of only the 50% of it.

I do not have time to read your silly propaganda. To say that the vast majority of Greek Cypriots are not hellenes is totally false. Only a handful of neo - Cypriots as defined by Epislon are trying by propagandistic means to change the Greek Cypriot Ethnos. Furthermore the question of the flag has nothing to do with reuniting Cyprus. So please refrain from going back to Adam and Eve as nobody has the time to read such nonsense. Instead you should question and complain as to why the Turkish Cypriots have their own flag totally seperate from that of the ROC.

Why shouldn't the Hellenic flag, designed by a person with Cypriot roots
( see other threads) not represent the Greek Cypriots. If it is good enough to represent the Orthodox church in Cyprus then it is good enough to represent its citizens.

If Cyprus is to be united under GREEK CYPRIOT majority rule ( Oracle) then the main language should be GREEK so should its religion, politic and flag with tolerance to minorities and their beliefs. This is called democracy. The flag question is not the CYPRUS PROBLEM !!!

[Byron]

Yes may he rest in peace but it is time to abandon that silly flag and replace it with the true flag of all Hellenes !

Yes I agree, where is the cross, this flag is better.




or this

Both flags are good, however you will find the new neo- Cypriot anti -hellenes disagreeing to it but thank god we are in the majority.