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Nicolas Sarkozy today took a hard line in France's latest row over Islamic dress, saying full veils and face coverings were a sign of women's debasement and "not welcome" on French soil.

He said: "The problem of the burka is not a religious problem, it's a problem of liberty and women's dignity. It's not a religious symbol, but a sign of subservience and debasement. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France. In our country, we can't accept women prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity. That's not our idea of freedom."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ju ... ech-france

Brave man .... 8)

[bill cobbett]

Vive Le France! Vive L'Egalite! Vive Les Soeures!

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Merci Monsieur Cobbett, or iz it Mademoiselle Cobbett?

I see you 'ave gay abandonment of le/la Burka, and you 'ave embraced l'esprit de la Révolutionnaire ....

[bill cobbett]

Merci Monsieur Cobbett, or iz it Mademoiselle Cobbett?

I see you 'ave gay abandonment of le/la Burka, and you 'ave embraced l'esprit de la Révolutionnaire ....

Mais oui, certainement Madame O.

Vive Les Soeures du Moulin Rouge! (oops!)

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[baby-come-fly-with-me]

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[baby-come-fly-with-me]

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very good I must say!!
Je voudres chocolate

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[Milo]

Nicolas Sarkozy today took a hard line in France's latest row over Islamic dress, saying full veils and face coverings were a sign of women's debasement and "not welcome" on French soil.

He said: "The problem of the burka is not a religious problem, it's a problem of liberty and women's dignity. It's not a religious symbol, but a sign of subservience and debasement. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France. In our country, we can't accept women prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity. That's not our idea of freedom."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ju ... ech-france

Brave man .... 8)

Don,t know about brave stupid springs to mind While its obvious to many that the oppression of the muslim women is apparent, many wear it out of choice and conversion, so here we go again its a man deciding what women can and cannot do. As of course many muslim men do for their women rock and a hard place springs to mind.

Who is he to say islamic veils cut off any social life that many muslim women enjoy!! Speaking to a hijab wearing lady at Larnaca airport last week who is a Docter in her country, I would think she would tell Sarkozy to leave politics to women who would soon get all the worlds mess put right. What next will he come up with?

My inlaws in Iran right now are fighting for womens rights to wear as they PLEASE not as men/religions tell them.

[Oracle]

Nicolas Sarkozy today took a hard line in France's latest row over Islamic dress, saying full veils and face coverings were a sign of women's debasement and "not welcome" on French soil.

He said: "The problem of the burka is not a religious problem, it's a problem of liberty and women's dignity. It's not a religious symbol, but a sign of subservience and debasement. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France. In our country, we can't accept women prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity. That's not our idea of freedom."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ju ... ech-france

Brave man .... 8)

Don,t know about brave stupid springs to mind While its obvious to many that the oppression of the muslim women is apparent, many wear it out of choice and conversion, so here we go again its a man deciding what women can and cannot do. As of course many muslim men do for their women rock and a hard place springs to mind.

Who is he to say islamic veils cut off any social life that many muslim women enjoy!! Speaking to a hijab wearing lady at Larnaca airport last week who is a Docter in her country, I would think she would tell Sarkozy to leave politics to women who would soon get all the worlds mess put right. What next will he come up with?

My inlaws in Iran right now are fighting for womens rights to wear as they PLEASE not as men/religions tell them.

That final statement contradicts what you say earlier and totally supports what Sarkozy is saying. Women should be free to wear as they deem appropriate.

I have a Persian friend, who won't return to Iran because of such matters.

So, you cannot say those Muslim women choose to wear such restraining attire ... they either acknowledge they are obligated to dress like that (those who are free to question such things), or they believe they choose because of the brainwashing from birth!

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Nicolas Sarkozy today took a hard line in France's latest row over Islamic dress, saying full veils and face coverings were a sign of women's debasement and "not welcome" on French soil.

He said: "The problem of the burka is not a religious problem, it's a problem of liberty and women's dignity. It's not a religious symbol, but a sign of subservience and debasement. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France. In our country, we can't accept women prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity. That's not our idea of freedom."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ju ... ech-france

Brave man .... 8)

Don,t know about brave stupid springs to mind While its obvious to many that the oppression of the muslim women is apparent, many wear it out of choice and conversion, so here we go again its a man deciding what women can and cannot do. As of course many muslim men do for their women rock and a hard place springs to mind.

Who is he to say islamic veils cut off any social life that many muslim women enjoy!! Speaking to a hijab wearing lady at Larnaca airport last week who is a Docter in her country, I would think she would tell Sarkozy to leave politics to women who would soon get all the worlds mess put right. What next will he come up with?

My inlaws in Iran right now are fighting for womens rights to wear as they PLEASE not as men/religions tell them.

That final statement contradicts what you say earlier and totally supports what Sarkozy is saying. Women should be free to wear as they deem appropriate.

I have a Persian friend, who won't return to Iran because of such matters.

So, you cannot say those Muslim women choose to wear such restraining attire ... they either acknowledge they are obligated to dress like that (those who are free to question such things), or they believe they choose because of the brainwashing from birth!

Its a tough one and very contraversial indeed, Do us women stand up and say "GIRL POWER" or is it fair enough that you should respect different countries laws etc etc and obide by them???