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Apostolides v Orams case - ECJ decision Explained

Postby grokked » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:47 pm

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The landmark case by the European Court of Justice upholds the rights of Greek Cypriot property owners to enforce judgments against those illegally occupying or profiting from their lands in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus.

Video is provided below of a 19th June 2009 meeting chaired by Mr Haris Sophoclides, President of the International Federation of Cypriot Organisations, with main speakers being Mr Costantis Candounas lawyer for Mr Apostolides in his case against David and Linda Orams, Mr Meletis Apostolides Plaintiff in the case against the Orams's, Mr Costas Frangeskides as a Partner in the Law Firm which represented Mr Apostolide's interests in the UK and at the ECJ, and Mr Nick Kounoupias on behalf of Lobby for Cyprus as organisers of this event and a long-standing Cypriot Lobby Group in London ( http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org )

See also a video recorded in March 2009, when Mr Candounas explained the background of this case in more detail, available online at:
http://www.archive.org/details/Constant ... dJudgement


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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:07 pm

Thanks for that mate/matess.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:40 pm

Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.


VP - you're a major contributor to the "fuss". You've made dozens and dozens of posts post-ECJ trying in vain to downplay the ruling.

Now go away and look up the word "ruling" in a dictionary and then come back and post to the Forum the meaning of this word.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:11 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.


VP - you're a major contributor to the "fuss". You've made dozens and dozens of posts post-ECJ trying in vain to downplay the ruling.

Now go away and look up the word "ruling" in a dictionary and then come back and post to the Forum the meaning of this word.


Candounass said himself its a clarification and that its now upto the British courts to deliver a verdict, so arent you GCs counting your chickens before they hatch?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.


VP - you're a major contributor to the "fuss". You've made dozens and dozens of posts post-ECJ trying in vain to downplay the ruling.

Now go away and look up the word "ruling" in a dictionary and then come back and post to the Forum the meaning of this word.


Candounass said himself its a clarification and that its now upto the British courts to deliver a verdict, so arent you GCs counting your chickens before they hatch?

All that's left is formalities. It's not an "if" but a "when".
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.


VP - you're a major contributor to the "fuss". You've made dozens and dozens of posts post-ECJ trying in vain to downplay the ruling.

Now go away and look up the word "ruling" in a dictionary and then come back and post to the Forum the meaning of this word.


Candounass said himself its a clarification and that its now upto the British courts to deliver a verdict, so arent you GCs counting your chickens before they hatch?

All that's left is formalities. It's not an "if" but a "when".


What if its not exactly as you wish?
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:43 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Have the British Courts delivered a verdict? why all this fuss before an outcome? the Gcs are counting chickens again before they hatch tut tut tut.


VP - you're a major contributor to the "fuss". You've made dozens and dozens of posts post-ECJ trying in vain to downplay the ruling.

Now go away and look up the word "ruling" in a dictionary and then come back and post to the Forum the meaning of this word.


Candounass said himself its a clarification and that its now upto the British courts to deliver a verdict, so arent you GCs counting your chickens before they hatch?

All that's left is formalities. It's not an "if" but a "when".


What if its not exactly as you wish?


It won't be your wish or our wish ... but the Law and Justice ... for a change.

Which is why you can play games until you are finally hanged!

The waiting seems like forever VP, which is why you are behaving like you have worms up your bottom ... then it will be over very quickly for you.

This is a very positive judgement for any Law-abiding TCs.

Of course, you are not one of them. Perhaps you are one of those who has 'sold' GC properties, in which case, your gut-wrenching concern at your own "safety" is understandable!
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Re: Apostolides v Orams case - ECJ decision Explained

Postby grokked » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:42 pm

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Following a request by Mr Candounas - this VIDEO material has been withdrawn (public viewing is disabled) pending the decision by the British High Court, expected in October 2009.
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Re: Apostolides v Orams case - ECJ decision Explained

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:40 pm

grokked wrote:
grokked wrote:Image

Following a request by Mr Candounas - this VIDEO material has been withdrawn (public viewing is disabled) pending the decision by the British High Court, expected in October 2009.


Still there mate and works for me.
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