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Greek bureaucracy halts scientific research

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Postby boulio » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:06 pm

dosent kifeas come from kefalas :wink:
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:21 pm

boulio wrote:dosent kifeas come from kefalas :wink:

No! It comes from bucephalus, Alexander's horse! Yours?
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Postby Othellos » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:41 pm

boulio wrote:dosent kifeas come from kefalas :wink:


Wasn't Kifeas Ariadne's father in Greek mythology?

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Postby Kifeas » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:09 pm

Othellos wrote:
boulio wrote:dosent kifeas come from kefalas :wink:


Wasn't Kifeas Ariadne's father in Greek mythology?

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Ariadne's father was Minos, king of Crete.

Kifeas was the founder of Kyrenia town in the ancient times. He was a participant in the Trojan war together with Paraxandros and they came in Cyprus after the war. Praxandros founted Lapithos. According to Strabo, an ancient Greek historian.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:07 pm

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But had Turkey not invaded, ethnically cleansed and occupied the north part of Cyprus then there would have never been any room for such "stupidities" in the first place. Right?


other than a TC genocide.....
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Postby metecyp » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:14 pm

Othellos wrote:And as Turkey's invasion, ethnic cleansing and ongoing occupation in Cyprus were / are wrong as you rightly point out, then why should any Greek government offer any form of acknowledgement (direct or indirect) to an illegal entity ("trnc") that was established by Turkey in an attempt to legalize its crime in Cyprus?

The problem with you is that you take things too seriously. So what if those Turkish guys have a TRNC stamp in their passports? What did humanity gain by Greeks' not allowing those Turkish guys to go to Greece? If they were allowed to enter to Greece with TRNC stamps in their passports, what would happen? Would the whole world start recognizing TRNC?

Moreover, the EU citizens can enter Cyprus from the north and go to the south and there's nothing the RoC can do about it. There are GCs who even go to Istanbul from Ercan nowadays with RoC passports and come back to the south and nothing happens to them. In this situation, don't you think it's too ridicilous to ask people renew their passports to enter to Greece just because they have TRNC stamp?

This has nothing to do with "legalizing crimes" or recognition and all that. It's plain stupid and the fact that you're trying to defend is even more tragic.[/quote]
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Postby brother » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:59 am

if its so petty brother than turkey should withdraw here troops and allow the people of cyprus to reconcile and go on with there lives correct?



The circumstances are very different, this was about research which will benefit us all but instead politics have hindered it.
So this is very petty imo.
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:44 pm

Greece is simply violating EU's latest decision on green line. There can be no excuses for this act!
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Postby Othellos » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:56 pm

The problem with you is that you take things too seriously.


You are damn right! I take the occupation of my home by Turkey very seriously.

So what if those Turkish guys have a TRNC stamp in their passports? What did humanity gain by Greeks' not allowing those Turkish guys to go to Greece?


I tried addressing the same question earlier by asking what did humanity lose by Greece not allowing ....etc.

This has nothing to do with "legalizing crimes" or recognition and all that. It's plain stupid and the fact that you're trying to defend is even more tragic.


Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling it "tragic" but of course you are entitled to think otherwise.

Greece is simply violating EU's latest decision on green line. There can be no excuses for this act!

Are you serious? :lol:

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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:01 pm

how is greece violating EU law exactly?

id like to see someone try and get a US visa with cuban stamps in their passport and well see how easy that will be.
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