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100% certified crazy. According to your "logic" Turkey will have to ship over 1,000.000 people out in 20 years time.

Actually no, because the shipment will start much sooner than you think.! But don't worry about it VP. You will give up a little part of the island to be with land that will be hundreds time bigger than what you gave up and be with your roots. Give up a little, gain a lot.!

What will it take to prove you wrong? your lifetime? you throw these weird scenerios up in the air and expect people to be stupid enough to accept what you say as the truth.....we all know what you are. We have 37% of this island and we aint letting go, time you realized that as it would bring a new perspective to your greatly blinkered, biased vision.

What you think you have and what Turkey wants to do with it is totally out of your hands, and if you don't already know this by now as everyone else seems to know, than you are just a hopeless romantic fool who thinks that Turkey loves you so much that she will let you keep what you have and keep her 70+ million Turks out of the EU.!

Boy, when you dream, you really dream BIG.!

Talk is cheap...prove it or shut up with your Ill throw shit around and hope it sticks attitude.

Do you remember you claimed that Turkey would sell us out be opening her ports thus recognizing the "RoC" and derecognizing the TRNC?? what happened? Your doom and gloom stories are just that stories.

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How long before the UBP demands that all the TC's who have gotten RoC EU passports to give them back to the RoC since they are no longer Turkish Cypriots, but are now Cyprus Turks, and if anyone refuses, they will get 25 years hard labour ( if they are lucky) for their traitorous acts.! Don’t think it’s not coming, because that is my next prediction, that it will.!

Another story...you are really grasping at straws.

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Firts of all above desicion is only taken by the head of BRT directors non of our reporters all following it .u are the one who can follow and understand what the press is saying in north .no one cares everyone writes what ever they wants.These are the policies of the organizations .
like saying Greek Cypriots leader , President Talat ,''TRNC'', ''ROC'' etc....etc..... depends how u look at the events or how they wanna be !

this time adminstration policy is different than old ones .

Halil, I'm disappointed in you again, really.! All this time when you referred to Talat as a President and Christofias as GC leader, I was under the impression that it was forced on you by your bosses, but now you tell us, that it is the personal view of the reporter, and since you also hold the same views as them, then you are no better than your bosses, because what you are saying now is, that you will ignore your bosses demand that you do not call yourself a TC any longer, but a Cyprus Turk instead, but you are not prepared to call Christofias a President, when the whole world calls him a President. You do however call Talat a President just because your bosses demand that you do, when the rest of the world call him Mr. Talat or leader of the TC's. Just how much more hypercritical can you get. Are you that ignorant of the world around you or what, or that you are just a another nationalist who is willing to do what he is being told as long as it only effects others, but when it becomes to punishing your identity, you are willing to stick to your beliefs. Halil my friend, if you are not prepared to come to the need of others, don’t expect them to come to your need. Don’t be surprised if the GC’s will take the pleasure in calling all the TC’s a Cyprus Turks from now on, or better yet, just Turks.! This should make your bosses very happy I would imagine.

Whats it to you?

[DT.]

Firts of all above desicion is only taken by the head of BRT directors non of our reporters all following it .u are the one who can follow and understand what the press is saying in north .no one cares everyone writes what ever they wants.These are the policies of the organizations .
like saying Greek Cypriots leader , President Talat ,''TRNC'', ''ROC'' etc....etc..... depends how u look at the events or how they wanna be !

this time adminstration policy is different than old ones .

Halil, I'm disappointed in you again, really.! All this time when you referred to Talat as a President and Christofias as GC leader, I was under the impression that it was forced on you by your bosses, but now you tell us, that it is the personal view of the reporter, and since you also hold the same views as them, then you are no better than your bosses, because what you are saying now is, that you will ignore your bosses demand that you do not call yourself a TC any longer, but a Cyprus Turk instead, but you are not prepared to call Christofias a President, when the whole world calls him a President. You do however call Talat a President just because your bosses demand that you do, when the rest of the world call him Mr. Talat or leader of the TC's. Just how much more hypercritical can you get. Are you that ignorant of the world around you or what, or that you are just a another nationalist who is willing to do what he is being told as long as it only effects others, but when it becomes to punishing your identity, you are willing to stick to your beliefs. Halil my friend, if you are not prepared to come to the need of others, don’t expect them to come to your need. Don’t be surprised if the GC’s will take the pleasure in calling all the TC’s a Cyprus Turks from now on, or better yet, just Turks.! This should make your bosses very happy I would imagine.

Whats it to you?

He's one of the few in this place we'll still call Turkish CYPRIOT.

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Firts of all above desicion is only taken by the head of BRT directors non of our reporters all following it .u are the one who can follow and understand what the press is saying in north .no one cares everyone writes what ever they wants.These are the policies of the organizations .
like saying Greek Cypriots leader , President Talat ,''TRNC'', ''ROC'' etc....etc..... depends how u look at the events or how they wanna be !

this time adminstration policy is different than old ones .

Halil, I'm disappointed in you again, really.! All this time when you referred to Talat as a President and Christofias as GC leader, I was under the impression that it was forced on you by your bosses, but now you tell us, that it is the personal view of the reporter, and since you also hold the same views as them, then you are no better than your bosses, because what you are saying now is, that you will ignore your bosses demand that you do not call yourself a TC any longer, but a Cyprus Turk instead, but you are not prepared to call Christofias a President, when the whole world calls him a President. You do however call Talat a President just because your bosses demand that you do, when the rest of the world call him Mr. Talat or leader of the TC's. Just how much more hypercritical can you get. Are you that ignorant of the world around you or what, or that you are just a another nationalist who is willing to do what he is being told as long as it only effects others, but when it becomes to punishing your identity, you are willing to stick to your beliefs. Halil my friend, if you are not prepared to come to the need of others, don’t expect them to come to your need. Don’t be surprised if the GC’s will take the pleasure in calling all the TC’s a Cyprus Turks from now on, or better yet, just Turks.! This should make your bosses very happy I would imagine.

Whats it to you?

He's one of the few in this place we'll still call Turkish CYPRIOT.

Government policies change all over the world with new governments and no one questions then, your government calls the north pseudo..so what get over it.

Doubt very much if he is a Turkish Cypriots, as he has not give us one single reason to think he is...there are signs but Kikapu does not show any of these.

[Kikapu]

What moron TC would tell another Turkish speaking person in Turkish, that they are Kibrisli Türk.

You clearly appear to be the moron here as this is like it or not a regular saying in the TRNC, so dont try to explain it away with your usual word manipulation, we live here allow us to know whatit said you have never come to the TRNC so you dont know jack shit. Just another reason to believe you are not a TC.

Ever heard of British Cypriot, British Pakistani or British African ethnic origins are also used in the UK.

Just another reason to believe you are not a TC.

Well now, it appears that my Turkish is better than yours, doesn't it.?

Ever heard of British Cypriot, British Pakistani or British African ethnic origins are also used in the UK

Don't mix apples and oranges, even though I know you can't tell the difference between the two, but that is no excuse for your ignorance.! Stick with the topic.

When a Pakistani who happens to be British also, does not tell another Pakistani that he is a British Pakistani when they introduce themselves to each other, because it is obvious that he is a Pakistani. When you talk with another TC in Turkish, do you say to them that you are a Cypriot Turkish (Kibrisli Türk) as a way to introduce yourself to them, no, because they know that you are a Cypriot (Kibrisli). Even the settlers are smarter than you, that they too do not need to be told that you are a Kibrisli Türk, because they can tell from your bastardised Turkish accent that you are a Kibrisli (Cypriot), which they look down on you as being inferior.

May well be the reason why you want to become a Turk, to give yourself a little boost to your battered inferiority complex all these years that the settlers have been in Cyprus. I got a news for you, VP. You may put a race horse saddle on a donkey, but it will not make it into a race horse, and the same with you. You may chance your status to being a Turk from a Cypriot, but you will still be a "donkey" in the eyes of the settlers.!!

Hee-haw, Hee-haw, Hee-haw, Hee-haw, Hee-haw, Hee-haw.!

What are you trying to prove?? I live in the TRNC and we say we are Kıbrıslı Türk in every day life no big thing, what are you so upset about? whats it to you?

We are not the ones claiming to be a race horse thats the "RoC" we know what we are and proud of it but you seem to have more trouble accepting the new generation Turkish Cypriots in the TRNC than we do...you are best off never returning to face your biggest fear the TC people old and new generations living in harmony in the TRNC.

I know its very difficult for you but can you try and refrain from being rude and throwing insults or else I will be forced to reply in the same if not worse manner.

You may say you are Kibrisli Türk, and I don't know to whom you will say this to in Turkish, other than to another TC or to a settler, as if they don't know from your accent. Just by saying you are Kibrisli in Turkish, already defines you as a Turkish Cypriot which does not translate into Cyprus Turk in English. It translates into Cypriot Turkish.! So, in order for you to comply with the new rules to ban the word "Cypriot", you must now say in Turkish, Kibris Türk or Cyprus Turk in English. Christmas has come early this year for the NeoPartionist. Soon you will just be called Turks, and then there goes TC's from Cyprus, and since Cyprus only has one recognition, the RoC, you would have helped it in becoming pure "Greek" state. I guess the EU will not need to have Turkish as an official language after all, at least not until Turkey becomes a member, and you know what that means to the "trnc"

There is no new generation of TC's, if you are talking about the settlers, because they were proud Turks before they came to Cyprus, and they are proud Turks now, and so they should be. Soon you won't even have any TC's, old or new generations, because the TC status is being changed being into a Turk. The TC's have been assimilated and Osmosis. I explained to you before how osmosis work, which is from higher concentration to lower concentration. The TC's were the lower concentration and the settlers always the higher.

What insults did I throw at you.???

[Kikapu]

Firts of all above desicion is only taken by the head of BRT directors non of our reporters all following it .u are the one who can follow and understand what the press is saying in north .no one cares everyone writes what ever they wants.These are the policies of the organizations .
like saying Greek Cypriots leader , President Talat ,''TRNC'', ''ROC'' etc....etc..... depends how u look at the events or how they wanna be !

this time adminstration policy is different than old ones .

Halil, I'm disappointed in you again, really.! All this time when you referred to Talat as a President and Christofias as GC leader, I was under the impression that it was forced on you by your bosses, but now you tell us, that it is the personal view of the reporter, and since you also hold the same views as them, then you are no better than your bosses, because what you are saying now is, that you will ignore your bosses demand that you do not call yourself a TC any longer, but a Cyprus Turk instead, but you are not prepared to call Christofias a President, when the whole world calls him a President. You do however call Talat a President just because your bosses demand that you do, when the rest of the world call him Mr. Talat or leader of the TC's. Just how much more hypercritical can you get. Are you that ignorant of the world around you or what, or that you are just a another nationalist who is willing to do what he is being told as long as it only effects others, but when it becomes to punishing your identity, you are willing to stick to your beliefs. Halil my friend, if you are not prepared to come to the need of others, don’t expect them to come to your need. Don’t be surprised if the GC’s will take the pleasure in calling all the TC’s a Cyprus Turks from now on, or better yet, just Turks.! This should make your bosses very happy I would imagine.

Whats it to you?

What's it to you. It is addressed to Halil !

[Kikapu]

How long before the UBP demands that all the TC's who have gotten RoC EU passports to give them back to the RoC since they are no longer Turkish Cypriots, but are now Cyprus Turks, and if anyone refuses, they will get 25 years hard labour ( if they are lucky) for their traitorous acts.! Don’t think it’s not coming, because that is my next prediction, that it will.!

Another story...you are really grasping at straws.

I can see things beyond my nose. You on the other hand, can't even see your own nose.!

[Kikapu]

100% certified crazy. According to your "logic" Turkey will have to ship over 1,000.000 people out in 20 years time.

Actually no, because the shipment will start much sooner than you think.! But don't worry about it VP. You will give up a little part of the island to be with land that will be hundreds time bigger than what you gave up and be with your roots. Give up a little, gain a lot.!

What will it take to prove you wrong? your lifetime? you throw these weird scenerios up in the air and expect people to be stupid enough to accept what you say as the truth.....we all know what you are. We have 37% of this island and we aint letting go, time you realized that as it would bring a new perspective to your greatly blinkered, biased vision.

What you think you have and what Turkey wants to do with it is totally out of your hands, and if you don't already know this by now as everyone else seems to know, than you are just a hopeless romantic fool who thinks that Turkey loves you so much that she will let you keep what you have and keep her 70+ million Turks out of the EU.!

Boy, when you dream, you really dream BIG.!

Talk is cheap...prove it or shut up with your Ill throw shit around and hope it sticks attitude.

Do you remember you claimed that Turkey would sell us out be opening her ports thus recognizing the "RoC" and derecognizing the TRNC?? what happened? Your doom and gloom stories are just that stories.

I never claimed that Turkey will not recognize the "trnc". How can a mother not love her baby, no matter how ugly it may be. It's mother nature.!

As for Turkey opening her ports to the RoC, the dead line is in December, so what's your hurry.! If she does not, she will have to face the consequences, that's all. Just be patient. You already got a new status this week from being a TC to a CT. Enjoy the moment.!

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Kikapu

You may say you are Kibrisli Türk, and I don't know to whom you will say this to in Turkish, other than to another TC or to a settler, as if they don't know from your accent. Just by saying you are Kibrisli in Turkish, already defines you as a Turkish Cypriot which does not translate into Cyprus Turk in English. It translates into Cypriot Turkish.! So, in order for you to comply with the new rules to ban the word "Cypriot", you must now say in Turkish, Kibris Türk or Cyprus Turk in English. Christmas has come early this year for the NeoPartionist. Soon you will just be called Turks, and then there goes TC's from Cyprus, and since Cyprus only has one recognition, the RoC, you would have helped it in becoming pure "Greek" state. I guess the EU will not need to have Turkish as an official language after all, at least not until Turkey becomes a member, and you know what that means to the "trnc"

Kikpau what are you so upset to whom to say we are Turkish Cypriots? I have been to other countries attended meetings when asked I state I am a Turkish Cypriot even while living in the UK we always referred to ourselves as Turkish Cypriots or Kıbrıslı Turk...why are you getting so worked up about it?..its normal for us thats why I doubt you are a TC as you clearly do not show a single sign that that is in fact your origin.

Now as to the confusion you seem to be experiencing over the Cyprus Turk issue which does not mean that Turkish Cypriot or Kıbrıslı Türk is being baaned from being used in everyday life in the TRNC just on the government run BRT television station, again you are trying to blow things out of all proportion and throwing arpund shit in the hope it will stick.

There is no new generation of TC's, if you are talking about the settlers, because they were proud Turks before they came to Cyprus, and they are proud Turks now, and so they should be. Soon you won't even have any TC's, old or new generations, because the TC status is being changed being into a Turk. The TC's have been assimilated and Osmosis. I explained to you before how osmosis work, which is from higher concentration to lower concentration. The TC's were the lower concentration and the settlers always the higher.

Are there new generation GCs or Brits??? or Americans? are all these new generations pure? no they are mixed and wil get more mixed as globalisation is the name of the game these days. I saw a TC man married to a Japanese woman with a baby born here what does that baby become as it gorws up here in the TRNC a new generation TC..now do you get it as I can explain it more simplier than that, the Turks who arrived and lived married and had children here are no different....you really need to get a grip or dont they have intermarriages in the GC south? do they discriminate against those babies born of mixed marriages or maybe they call them by another name??? We are but one concentration called new generation Turkish Cypriots.

What insults did I throw at you.???

"I know you can't tell the difference between the two, but that is no excuse for your ignorance.! "

This is just an example from one of your last post there are others riddled in between the majority of your responses to not just me but many other posters....you know I can be just as rude and very course if so be but I try to refrain from stooping so low but if you wish to continue that game then I will respond in like and where will that get us? please stick to the subjects at hand and refrain from insults or using sex inuendos when you run out of arguements and then our debates will be more productive as we try to understand and respect each others viewpoints.