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[Kikapu]

Why the surprised look?

I would be angry at of some the Greek Cypriots trying to take away my Cypriotness. I should've looked closer to home. The enemy within, so to speak.

Time to sell up now!!

Deniz,

Brother Birkibrisli and I have been on this topic for the last two years about how the TC's were taking part in their own funeral in the extermination of their own Cypriot heritage. The answer that we got back from all the Fascist and the ignorant was, that they were finally going back to their roots, so no wonder the GC's have very little respect for the TC's for not having any loyalty to their country of Cyprus, despite all the problems between the two communities in the past. America had far worse problems with the civil war where brother was fighting and killing brother to save their new country called America, but our TC brothers are fighting to go back to their roots, when they could have just jumped on a boat any time they wanted to be with their roots in their motherland of Turkey. I have no respect for those who do not respect their Cypriotness, whether they are a TC or a GC. This is how Cyprus eventually will become a "Greek" island, as I warned VP about this endless times. They are almost there.!

You are right 63% is Greek but the rest they will never see again due to their own stupid divisive actions....think hard and long about this statement.

You fools, don't you see, that when the time comes, Turkey will cut a deal with the RoC to be in the EU, and since you are no longer a Cypriot by your own choice, then you will be told what to do for the bigger cause to help your motherland, and you will be all shipped out of Cyprus, since you have already abdicated your Cypriotness, you will no longer belong in Cyprus. You would have then handed the whole island to the GC's to become a "Greek" island. Well done.!

[Kikapu]

New Bayrak administration decided not to use Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot words on their programmes.

It can be used Cyprus Turks instead of Turkish Cypriot .

who cares what our administration decision . I am a Turkish Cypriot and i am proud of using the word for my identification .

forbidden words are :
Turkish Cypriot (Kıbrıslı Türk)
Cypriot(Kıbrıslı)
and This country is our .(Bu memleket bizim)

This the policy of the UBP .

Well Halil, what can I say to you my friend, who used to be a TC but will be know from now on as a CT. It was only a matter of time before it came down to this, which is not finished with by the way, not until you are forced to call yourselves "TURKS"...full stop.! But the writing was on the wall for a very long time, but you just chose to ignore it, just because you thought you were going to be your own EFENDI in the north.!

First you were forced to change your names so that it had a lot of the Anatolian flavours to it, so that the TC's would be assimilated into the settlers much easier, which you did not complain at all. Now you are being told you are no longer a Turkish Cypriot, but a Cyprus Turk, and then will come being, just Turk. So much for all your posts telling us that the settlers were becoming more TC than the TC's themselves. Boy, did you ever fool yourself by believing such rubbish. Then you told us that you have a democracy in the north, but come election time, all the political parties were bribing people with money to vote for them and in the end, the majority votes were cast by the settlers masquerading as TC's, which made the true TC's not to have a voice any longer, which you did not complain again.

Maybe this is what you meant by saying that the settlers were becoming more of a TC then the TC’s themselves.!! No, the settlers have not become more of a TC, but rather, they have become MORE than the TC’s.! Then you told us that you had freedom of the press and anyone can write what ever they wanted, but now your new bosses tell you, you cannot use the term Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot any longer, and once again, you will not complain and will do as you been told. So much for the freedom of the press that prohibits you from acknowledging your own existence, just like when you were forced to change your name. Do you have anymore bad news Halil, or is this it.? Well, the bad news is not over really, because you are being prepared for the "slaughter house" to strip you of your identity once and for all of ever being a Cypriot, which wont be too long now.! When will you start to complain to your bosses that you do not wish to lose your Cypriot heritage for what ever amount of money they are giving you, to do just that..????

Goodbye Turkish Cypriotism.!!!

Translate Kıbrıslı Türk....and you will find the answer.

What about it.? It means Cypriot Turkish (Turk) and not Cyprus Turkish (Turk). In order for it to mean Cyprus Turkish (Turk), you would have to write Kibris Türk, therefore, there is a difference between Kibris and Kibrisli. Kibris means Cyprus and Kibrisli means Cypriot. When did you ever had to tell another Turkish speaking person that you were a Kibrisli Türk, never, because the fact that you are speaking in Turkish, the word "Türk" after Kibrisli is redundant, is it not.? So what is your point.?

Don't kid yourself Kiks, governments do not change the people, people change the governments.

That's true in a True Democracy. Now, show me a True Democracy in the "trnc" or in Turkey.!

[Kifeas]

Halil, do you remember this song and when it was played.

YFred, out of curiosity, what relationship a leftist partisan song may possibly have with a proud Turkish nationalist like you? What relationship quasi-fascist Turkish kemalist nationalism may possibly have with leftist ideologies in general, when in fact leftism has almost completely been eradicated and banned from Turkish soil by the kemalist military-deep state bureaucracy? You people do not seem to know what you support and what you preach!

[Viewpoint]

New Bayrak administration decided not to use Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot words on their programmes.

It can be used Cyprus Turks instead of Turkish Cypriot .

who cares what our administration decision . I am a Turkish Cypriot and i am proud of using the word for my identification .

forbidden words are :
Turkish Cypriot (Kıbrıslı Türk)
Cypriot(Kıbrıslı)
and This country is our .(Bu memleket bizim)

This the policy of the UBP .

Well Halil, what can I say to you my friend, who used to be a TC but will be know from now on as a CT. It was only a matter of time before it came down to this, which is not finished with by the way, not until you are forced to call yourselves "TURKS"...full stop.! But the writing was on the wall for a very long time, but you just chose to ignore it, just because you thought you were going to be your own EFENDI in the north.!

First you were forced to change your names so that it had a lot of the Anatolian flavours to it, so that the TC's would be assimilated into the settlers much easier, which you did not complain at all. Now you are being told you are no longer a Turkish Cypriot, but a Cyprus Turk, and then will come being, just Turk. So much for all your posts telling us that the settlers were becoming more TC than the TC's themselves. Boy, did you ever fool yourself by believing such rubbish. Then you told us that you have a democracy in the north, but come election time, all the political parties were bribing people with money to vote for them and in the end, the majority votes were cast by the settlers masquerading as TC's, which made the true TC's not to have a voice any longer, which you did not complain again.

Maybe this is what you meant by saying that the settlers were becoming more of a TC then the TC’s themselves.!! No, the settlers have not become more of a TC, but rather, they have become MORE than the TC’s.! Then you told us that you had freedom of the press and anyone can write what ever they wanted, but now your new bosses tell you, you cannot use the term Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot any longer, and once again, you will not complain and will do as you been told. So much for the freedom of the press that prohibits you from acknowledging your own existence, just like when you were forced to change your name. Do you have anymore bad news Halil, or is this it.? Well, the bad news is not over really, because you are being prepared for the "slaughter house" to strip you of your identity once and for all of ever being a Cypriot, which wont be too long now.! When will you start to complain to your bosses that you do not wish to lose your Cypriot heritage for what ever amount of money they are giving you, to do just that..????

Goodbye Turkish Cypriotism.!!!

Translate Kıbrıslı Türk....and you will find the answer.

What about it.? It means Cypriot Turkish (Turk) and not Cyprus Turkish (Turk). In order for it to mean Cyprus Turkish (Turk), you would have to write Kibris Türk, therefore, there is a difference between Kibris and Kibrisli. Kibris means Cyprus and Kibrisli means Cypriot. When did you ever had to tell another Turkish speaking person that you were a Kibrisli Türk, never, because the fact that you are speaking in Turkish, the word "Türk" after Kibrisli is redundant, is it not.? So what is your point.?

Again you are wrong as you know nothing about life in the TRNC, we refer to our selves as Kıbrıslı Türk in the Turkish language and everyday life...so the BRT have translated straight into English..why the hell does it bother you, when it doesnt bother us in the slightest? The alternatives are capitulating to GC demands accept becoming a minority in a racist Gc state...bring on Turkification..another 20 years and the GCs will be begging for partition.

Then your Turkish is worse than I thought. If you translate Kibrisli Türk into English, it translates as Cypriot Turkish (Turk). What Bayrak wants to do, is to eliminate the word Cypriot to Cyprus, therefore in Turkish, it would then read Kibris Türk, but by your own admission, you call yourself in Turkish, Kibrisli Türk, which translate to Cypriot Turkish (Turk). What moron TC would tell another Turkish speaking person in Turkish, that they are Kibrisli Türk. The word "Türk" is redundant in this context. It will be like an English person saying in English to another English speaking person that you are a England English or British English. The word "English" is also redundant in this context. Why, because you are speaking in English, that’s why.!

What moron TC would tell another Turkish speaking person in Turkish, that they are Kibrisli Türk.

You clearly appear to be the moron here as this is like it or not a regular saying in the TRNC, so dont try to explain it away with your usual word manipulation, we live here allow us to know whatit said you have never come to the TRNC so you dont know jack shit. Just another reason to believe you are not a TC.

Ever heard of British Cypriot, British Pakistani or British African ethnic origins are also used in the UK.

[bill cobbett]

New Bayrak administration decided not to use Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot words on their programmes.

It can be used Cyprus Turks instead of Turkish Cypriot .

who cares what our administration decision . I am a Turkish Cypriot and i am proud of using the word for my identification .

forbidden words are :
Turkish Cypriot (Kıbrıslı Türk)
Cypriot(Kıbrıslı)
and This country is our .(Bu memleket bizim)

This the policy of the UBP .

Well Halil, what can I say to you my friend, who used to be a TC but will be know from now on as a CT. It was only a matter of time before it came down to this, which is not finished with by the way, not until you are forced to call yourselves "TURKS"...full stop.! But the writing was on the wall for a very long time, but you just chose to ignore it, just because you thought you were going to be your own EFENDI in the north.!

First you were forced to change your names so that it had a lot of the Anatolian flavours to it, so that the TC's would be assimilated into the settlers much easier, which you did not complain at all. Now you are being told you are no longer a Turkish Cypriot, but a Cyprus Turk, and then will come being, just Turk. So much for all your posts telling us that the settlers were becoming more TC than the TC's themselves. Boy, did you ever fool yourself by believing such rubbish. Then you told us that you have a democracy in the north, but come election time, all the political parties were bribing people with money to vote for them and in the end, the majority votes were cast by the settlers masquerading as TC's, which made the true TC's not to have a voice any longer, which you did not complain again.

Maybe this is what you meant by saying that the settlers were becoming more of a TC then the TC’s themselves.!! No, the settlers have not become more of a TC, but rather, they have become MORE than the TC’s.! Then you told us that you had freedom of the press and anyone can write what ever they wanted, but now your new bosses tell you, you cannot use the term Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot any longer, and once again, you will not complain and will do as you been told. So much for the freedom of the press that prohibits you from acknowledging your own existence, just like when you were forced to change your name. Do you have anymore bad news Halil, or is this it.? Well, the bad news is not over really, because you are being prepared for the "slaughter house" to strip you of your identity once and for all of ever being a Cypriot, which wont be too long now.! When will you start to complain to your bosses that you do not wish to lose your Cypriot heritage for what ever amount of money they are giving you, to do just that..????

Goodbye Turkish Cypriotism.!!!

Translate Kıbrıslı Türk....and you will find the answer.

What about it.? It means Cypriot Turkish (Turk) and not Cyprus Turkish (Turk). In order for it to mean Cyprus Turkish (Turk), you would have to write Kibris Türk, therefore, there is a difference between Kibris and Kibrisli. Kibris means Cyprus and Kibrisli means Cypriot. When did you ever had to tell another Turkish speaking person that you were a Kibrisli Türk, never, because the fact that you are speaking in Turkish, the word "Türk" after Kibrisli is redundant, is it not.? So what is your point.?

Don't kid yourself Kiks, governments do not change the people, people change the governments.

That's true in a True Democracy. Now, show me a True Democracy in the "trnc" or in Turkey.!

Quite right and if I may remind all, in tnucland the Illegal Settlers shipped in , in the tens of thousands by Turkey determine the government.

Some democracy!

[DT.]

New Bayrak administration decided not to use Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot words on their programmes.

It can be used Cyprus Turks instead of Turkish Cypriot .

who cares what our administration decision . I am a Turkish Cypriot and i am proud of using the word for my identification .

forbidden words are :
Turkish Cypriot (Kıbrıslı Türk)
Cypriot(Kıbrıslı)
and This country is our .(Bu memleket bizim)

This the policy of the UBP .

Well Halil, what can I say to you my friend, who used to be a TC but will be know from now on as a CT. It was only a matter of time before it came down to this, which is not finished with by the way, not until you are forced to call yourselves "TURKS"...full stop.! But the writing was on the wall for a very long time, but you just chose to ignore it, just because you thought you were going to be your own EFENDI in the north.!

First you were forced to change your names so that it had a lot of the Anatolian flavours to it, so that the TC's would be assimilated into the settlers much easier, which you did not complain at all. Now you are being told you are no longer a Turkish Cypriot, but a Cyprus Turk, and then will come being, just Turk. So much for all your posts telling us that the settlers were becoming more TC than the TC's themselves. Boy, did you ever fool yourself by believing such rubbish. Then you told us that you have a democracy in the north, but come election time, all the political parties were bribing people with money to vote for them and in the end, the majority votes were cast by the settlers masquerading as TC's, which made the true TC's not to have a voice any longer, which you did not complain again.

Maybe this is what you meant by saying that the settlers were becoming more of a TC then the TC’s themselves.!! No, the settlers have not become more of a TC, but rather, they have become MORE than the TC’s.! Then you told us that you had freedom of the press and anyone can write what ever they wanted, but now your new bosses tell you, you cannot use the term Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot any longer, and once again, you will not complain and will do as you been told. So much for the freedom of the press that prohibits you from acknowledging your own existence, just like when you were forced to change your name. Do you have anymore bad news Halil, or is this it.? Well, the bad news is not over really, because you are being prepared for the "slaughter house" to strip you of your identity once and for all of ever being a Cypriot, which wont be too long now.! When will you start to complain to your bosses that you do not wish to lose your Cypriot heritage for what ever amount of money they are giving you, to do just that..????

Goodbye Turkish Cypriotism.!!!

Translate Kıbrıslı Türk....and you will find the answer.

What about it.? It means Cypriot Turkish (Turk) and not Cyprus Turkish (Turk). In order for it to mean Cyprus Turkish (Turk), you would have to write Kibris Türk, therefore, there is a difference between Kibris and Kibrisli. Kibris means Cyprus and Kibrisli means Cypriot. When did you ever had to tell another Turkish speaking person that you were a Kibrisli Türk, never, because the fact that you are speaking in Turkish, the word "Türk" after Kibrisli is redundant, is it not.? So what is your point.?

Again you are wrong as you know nothing about life in the TRNC, we refer to our selves as Kıbrıslı Türk in the Turkish language and everyday life...so the BRT have translated straight into English..why the hell does it bother you, when it doesnt bother us in the slightest? The alternatives are capitulating to GC demands accept becoming a minority in a racist Gc state...bring on Turkification..another 20 years and the GCs will be begging for partition.

Why is Halil so upset then?

[Viewpoint]

Why the surprised look?

I would be angry at of some the Greek Cypriots trying to take away my Cypriotness. I should've looked closer to home. The enemy within, so to speak.

Time to sell up now!!

Deniz,

Brother Birkibrisli and I have been on this topic for the last two years about how the TC's were taking part in their own funeral in the extermination of their own Cypriot heritage. The answer that we got back from all the Fascist and the ignorant was, that they were finally going back to their roots, so no wonder the GC's have very little respect for the TC's for not having any loyalty to their country of Cyprus, despite all the problems between the two communities in the past. America had far worse problems with the civil war where brother was fighting and killing brother to save their new country called America, but our TC brothers are fighting to go back to their roots, when they could have just jumped on a boat any time they wanted to be with their roots in their motherland of Turkey. I have no respect for those who do not respect their Cypriotness, whether they are a TC or a GC. This is how Cyprus eventually will become a "Greek" island, as I warned VP about this endless times. They are almost there.!

You are right 63% is Greek but the rest they will never see again due to their own stupid divisive actions....think hard and long about this statement.

You fools, don't you see, that when the time comes, Turkey will cut a deal with the RoC to be in the EU, and since you are no longer a Cypriot by your own choice, then you will be told what to do for the bigger cause to help your motherland, and you will be all shipped out of Cyprus, since you have already abdicated your Cypriotness, you will no longer belong in Cyprus. You would have then handed the whole island to the GC's to become a "Greek" island. Well done.!

100% certified crazy. According to your "logic" Turkey will have to ship over 1,000.000 people out in 20 years time.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu stop talking crap. The names had to change as it was the only country in the world that had that system. The GCs did the same.

I don't have a problem in establishing a family name, but was it necessary to change your original last name to something completely different that sounded like an Anatolian name. You could have kept your original name to become your family name from now on. But no, that was not allowed, because it was too Turkish Cypriot. It had to sound Anatolian. Now, you stop talking crap.!

As to the Turkification, it's been going on since 1963, where have you been long before the new TC residence arrived.

Are we then to assume, that what the GC's did was correct with all the isolation and embargoes, and all the UN and EU court resolutions and judgements to prevent the TC's from Turkifying northern part of Cyprus. I think you have just helped them justify their actions.!

The wealth in Cyprus is in hands of just a few families just like every other Capitalist country including the South.

What is the relevance of this to what we are talking about.?

You lot said no to Annan and allowed TPap to do nothing for 4 years. TCs just put up 2 fingers at all of you so now in true DT tradition take it like man. Kiss goodbye to Guzelyurt and Marash as well as free Girne.

YFred, can you give us a small summary what the Anna Plan was all about. My guess is, you know zilch about the AP, so if I were you, don't bring up the AP again until you know something about it. I couldn't even get you to read Perry Anderson's "Division of Cyprus" for god sake.!

You were so right Kiks, Turkey is about to give a little and take a lot, what you should have said is "take the lot".

Oh yes, right on target, because now that you have become a Turk, then watch Turkey trade you for a EU membership. You are not going to say no to Turkey, are you.? You do want to help your motherland, don't you.? Actually, you will not be asked, just told what to do, so yes, Turkey will give a little (you) to take a lot (EU).!

[Gregory]

sorry I'm a little new at this but if I understand correctly the news came out that Eroglu is banning the terms Turkish Cypriot and Cypriot in the occupied territories...and some people who I assume are Turkish Cypriot are happy about this?

why?

[Kikapu]

100% certified crazy. According to your "logic" Turkey will have to ship over 1,000.000 people out in 20 years time.

Actually no, because the shipment will start much sooner than you think.! But don't worry about it VP. You will give up a little part of the island to be with land that will be hundreds time bigger than what you gave up and be with your roots. Give up a little, gain a lot.!