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[james_mav]

Zan and Viewpoint are quite the statesmen, licking each other's balls all the time!

I'd watch out if I were you that Kiks doesn't give you the same treatment with that idiotic signature you're carrying.

I can't read Greek, therefore, I'll let my good friend Miltiades take care of him.!

And you attack the mogoloi like such a patriot! Remind milti to put in his false teeth before he rips me to shreds, please.

[theunifier]

Hello everyone,

After reading this rather lengthy 14 page thread, I have been spoon fed all the motivation required to write the following article regarding the terminology used in Cyprus to define people and the land itself.

I have particularly referred to terms such as the one in question (Turks of Cyprus and the variants) and of course the ridiculous Turkish Cyprus/Greek Cyprus and so forth.

The article can be found at

http://www.thelastdividedcapital.com/20 ... rminology/

Your comments and feedback are welcome.

[james_mav]

Hello everyone,

After reading this rather lengthy 14 page thread, I have been spoon fed all the motivation required to write the following article regarding the terminology used in Cyprus to define people and the land itself.

I have particularly referred to terms such as the one in question (Turks of Cyprus and the variants) and of course the ridiculous Turkish Cyprus/Greek Cyprus and so forth.

The article can be found at

http://www.thelastdividedcapital.com/20 ... rminology/

Your comments and feedback are welcome.

Your article fails by inspection and you've missed the point entirely; your poll ("What better defines you as a Cypriot?") should include "Greek", and "tourkomogolo", because these two ethnic groupings define most people on the island.

[theunifier]

There is also an "other" in the poll. Pick that. I am fairly convinced my article did not fail by inspection nor by analysis in that matter. After all it is through the words of Turkish speaking Cypriots and Greek speaking Cypriots themselves that the words have come from.

But thank you for your feedback anyway. Could it be nice of you to justify what the "Hellenic Republic of Cyprus" is that you have in your avatar on the side? I didn't see that while going through the endless pages of our (Cypriots) constitution?

[james_mav]

Could it be nice of you to justify what the "Hellenic Republic of Cyprus" is that you have in your avatar on the side? I didn't see that while going through the endless pages of our (Cypriots) constitution?

Think about which foreign powers had a hand in drafting that constitution and think laterally.

[theunifier]

The British did. And they did a damn good job at doing it if you ask me. We made a miserable attempt at following it. I truly honestly beleive that the generations from the 60's had no idea about how the country "should" function thus why we were given our constitution. although modified today (thank god and intelligent people - the few that do exist) it still holds strong. It was built in the image of the UK constitution which I have also browsed into.

Are you saying that the constitution is to blame for all the trouble? How comes a multinational cosmopolitan city like London can live with all sorts of ethnicities and still be considered British then? They can do it perfectly with 7 million people (I've seen it and lived it) and you're telling me that you blame the people that wrote the damn thing for you?

Kind of unjust don't you think?

[james_mav]

The British did.

Just them? Anybody else you can think of?

And they did a damn good job at doing it

Absolutely. Behold the results.

if you ask me.

I didn't.

We made a miserable attempt at following it.

There was no chance of success. You should read a little more on British colonial history, in particular, focus on how a small island nation managed to subjugate large swathes of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Hint: they didn't do it exclusively with guns.

I truly honestly beleive that the generations from the 60's had no idea about how the country "should" function thus why we were given our constitution.

You're entitled to be wrong. The Greeks new all too well how the country should function, which is why they were saddled by foreign powers with the constitution.

It was built in the image of the UK constitution which I have also browsed into

Is that so? Please post a link for me, I would love to read the constitution of the United Kingdom; I would love to compare the similarities. And you were doing so well bluffing your way through your cluelessness until you made this remark.

Are you saying that the constitution is to blame for all the trouble?

Indeed I am. A political system that does not reflect the political realities of its subjects is guaranteed to fail.

How comes a multinational cosmopolitan city like London can live with all sorts of ethnicities and still be considered British then?

This comparison is so absurd that it does not warrant a response.

Kind of unjust don't you think?

Many things are unjust.

[theunifier]

Much of that is actually subjective. But feedback is good anyway. Being sarcastic and assumptious doesn't help.

It isn't the constitution's fault. Your'e supposed to follow the damn thing to make it work.

But as you said , many things are unjust, such as how TCs feel when they see forum members posting with a signature that says "Hellas - Cyprus Enosis" . How would you feel if a TC had "Turkey Cyprus Enosis" in their signature?

[james_mav]

Much of that is actually subjective.

Really? Why don't you address each part, and let us know which of my points you think are subjective? Don't forget to explain why.

Being sarcastic and assumptious doesn't help.

Feel free to point out my erroneous assumptions. Also please point out where my alleged sarcasm invalidates my arguments.

It isn't the constitution's fault. Your'e supposed to follow the damn thing to make it work.

If the constitution does not reflect political reality, it will fail.

But as you said , many things are unjust, such as how TCs feel when they see forum members posting with a signature that says "Hellas - Cyprus Enosis" . How would you feel if a TC had "Turkey Cyprus Enosis" in their signature?

Not as bad as pretty much everyone did when they actually did it. Fuckwit.

[theunifier]

Since you like to quote button so much I'll use it too.

But as you said , many things are unjust, such as how TCs feel when they see forum members posting with a signature that says "Hellas - Cyprus Enosis" . How would you feel if a TC had "Turkey Cyprus Enosis" in their signature?

Not as bad as pretty much everyone did when they actually did it. Fuckwit.[/quote]

The very idea of annexing an already established republic is simply ridiculous. Ask Greece today the following question "Please oh please Mr. Karamanlis can we join Cyprus to your island?" What do you think his response would be? He would tell you to stick your annexing idea back to where it came from!

Now do experiment 2. Ask Mr. Erdogan if he would like the same thing with Turkey. What do you think he would say? He would jump with joy for that one.

So what did I prove with that? That annexing was a bad idea then , and its a bad idea now. Why do people want annexing to Greece or Turkey anyway? Are they too proud to call themselves Cypriots or is it because they need the help of another larger country to help them get up in the morning and do their day to day living? (not sarcasm in kind).

As far as everything else, I choose not to respond at this point of time since I would respond in the same rude kind. Nothing personal mate.

Peace,
The Unifier.