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Cyprus protests air traffic violations by Turkey

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:36 am

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Not very discreet is it?

Knowing you lot, probably its somwhere in Turkey, but those roads are too perfect. :lol: :lol:

Reverse Trojan Horse' Cypriot style methinks


You didn't think Cyprus was seriously going to gift these advance weapon systems to Greece did you? :?



We have learnt (Trojan Horse?) to never trust Greeks bearing.....

Stick to tradition and that will be fine with me. At least we know what to expect. :lol:


Deniz...I don't know why you are so hot and bothered about these weapons, because it is only an Air Defence System, which is used to defend Cypriot Airspace from possible TAF attack, and also from other cruise missiles. The missile system is the equivalent to America's Patriot.

These weapons are purely defensive in nature, and Cyprus does have the right to invest in weapons for its national security and defence.



Not at all Bafidis. I find it all amusing. I study the Afghans and laugh at the west with their military superiority.

Not bothered at all.

I am more bothered with those bastards in the north. :roll:


So you should be Deniz. And the GCs also feel the same way. If anything, it all just proves that Turkey is not interested in a solution at all, but this will change in a few years when Turkey is forced to make a choice between EU or Cyprus.

They are not only the occupiers (referring to the Turkish Army) of the RoC, but it is a proven fact that they are the TCs enemy as well. :roll:

When the RoC buys weapons, it is only so that we can defend ourselves against a numerically superior force. If Cyprus was a united free country, we wouldn't need as many weapons.

We just want our country whole again. Nothing against the TCs at all. In fact, we understand what some of you are going through but unfortunately, many others such as VP, Y-Fred, Zan et al still haven't got it through their thick heads yet, or they choose to ignore the realities. :? Even Halil has become depressed now...

This is just the beginning BTW. It is going to get a lot worse.

The TCs need to find the courage to resist before it is too late. If this is done now, then something is salvageable. If not, then there won't be any TCs left on Cyprus. :roll:

This is a very tall order, because it is asking the TCs to face their Goliath. What choice do the TCs have?

I sincerely sympathise with your predicament. Your predicament is our predicament as well. :roll:

If I said it once I said it 10 million times Bafidi. So long as RoC has the TCs’ hands shackled there can be no effort made against Turkey. First the RoC has to remove economic isolation of TCs. Your idea that TCs should resist Turkey when RoC cannot, is almost as laughable as the idea that Palestinian Authority should sort out Hamas when Israel itself tried and failed.

Back to the real world.


The CTs (TC ones) are not isolated. They have EU pssports and RoC ID cards. They are also entitled to free RoC medical care.

Trade can only occur between countries. Since you are not a country, you are left between a RoC and hard place... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:43 am

Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Not very discreet is it?

Knowing you lot, probably its somwhere in Turkey, but those roads are too perfect. :lol: :lol:

Reverse Trojan Horse' Cypriot style methinks


You didn't think Cyprus was seriously going to gift these advance weapon systems to Greece did you? :?



We have learnt (Trojan Horse?) to never trust Greeks bearing.....

Stick to tradition and that will be fine with me. At least we know what to expect. :lol:


Deniz...I don't know why you are so hot and bothered about these weapons, because it is only an Air Defence System, which is used to defend Cypriot Airspace from possible TAF attack, and also from other cruise missiles. The missile system is the equivalent to America's Patriot.

These weapons are purely defensive in nature, and Cyprus does have the right to invest in weapons for its national security and defence.



Not at all Bafidis. I find it all amusing. I study the Afghans and laugh at the west with their military superiority.

Not bothered at all.

I am more bothered with those bastards in the north. :roll:


So you should be Deniz. And the GCs also feel the same way. If anything, it all just proves that Turkey is not interested in a solution at all, but this will change in a few years when Turkey is forced to make a choice between EU or Cyprus.

They are not only the occupiers (referring to the Turkish Army) of the RoC, but it is a proven fact that they are the TCs enemy as well. :roll:

When the RoC buys weapons, it is only so that we can defend ourselves against a numerically superior force. If Cyprus was a united free country, we wouldn't need as many weapons.

We just want our country whole again. Nothing against the TCs at all. In fact, we understand what some of you are going through but unfortunately, many others such as VP, Y-Fred, Zan et al still haven't got it through their thick heads yet, or they choose to ignore the realities. :? Even Halil has become depressed now...

This is just the beginning BTW. It is going to get a lot worse.

The TCs need to find the courage to resist before it is too late. If this is done now, then something is salvageable. If not, then there won't be any TCs left on Cyprus. :roll:

This is a very tall order, because it is asking the TCs to face their Goliath. What choice do the TCs have?

I sincerely sympathise with your predicament. Your predicament is our predicament as well. :roll:

If I said it once I said it 10 million times Bafidi. So long as RoC has the TCs’ hands shackled there can be no effort made against Turkey. First the RoC has to remove economic isolation of TCs. Your idea that TCs should resist Turkey when RoC cannot, is almost as laughable as the idea that Palestinian Authority should sort out Hamas when Israel itself tried and failed.

Back to the real world.


The CTs (TC ones) are not isolated. They have EU pssports and RoC ID cards. They are also entitled to free RoC medical care.

Trade can only occur between countries. Since you are not a country, you are left between a RoC and hard place... :lol:

How does Taiwan or Kosovo do it then?
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Postby james_mav » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:27 am

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Trade can only occur between countries. Since you are not a country, you are left between a RoC and hard place... :lol:

How does Taiwan or Kosovo do it then?

However they do it, the mogolo-occupied north will not be able do it the same way.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:18 am

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Not very discreet is it?

Knowing you lot, probably its somwhere in Turkey, but those roads are too perfect. :lol: :lol:

Reverse Trojan Horse' Cypriot style methinks


You didn't think Cyprus was seriously going to gift these advance weapon systems to Greece did you? :?



We have learnt (Trojan Horse?) to never trust Greeks bearing.....

Stick to tradition and that will be fine with me. At least we know what to expect. :lol:


Deniz...I don't know why you are so hot and bothered about these weapons, because it is only an Air Defence System, which is used to defend Cypriot Airspace from possible TAF attack, and also from other cruise missiles. The missile system is the equivalent to America's Patriot.

These weapons are purely defensive in nature, and Cyprus does have the right to invest in weapons for its national security and defence.



Not at all Bafidis. I find it all amusing. I study the Afghans and laugh at the west with their military superiority.

Not bothered at all.

I am more bothered with those bastards in the north. :roll:


So you should be Deniz. And the GCs also feel the same way. If anything, it all just proves that Turkey is not interested in a solution at all, but this will change in a few years when Turkey is forced to make a choice between EU or Cyprus.

They are not only the occupiers (referring to the Turkish Army) of the RoC, but it is a proven fact that they are the TCs enemy as well. :roll:

When the RoC buys weapons, it is only so that we can defend ourselves against a numerically superior force. If Cyprus was a united free country, we wouldn't need as many weapons.

We just want our country whole again. Nothing against the TCs at all. In fact, we understand what some of you are going through but unfortunately, many others such as VP, Y-Fred, Zan et al still haven't got it through their thick heads yet, or they choose to ignore the realities. :? Even Halil has become depressed now...

This is just the beginning BTW. It is going to get a lot worse.

The TCs need to find the courage to resist before it is too late. If this is done now, then something is salvageable. If not, then there won't be any TCs left on Cyprus. :roll:

This is a very tall order, because it is asking the TCs to face their Goliath. What choice do the TCs have?

I sincerely sympathise with your predicament. Your predicament is our predicament as well. :roll:

If I said it once I said it 10 million times Bafidi. So long as RoC has the TCs’ hands shackled there can be no effort made against Turkey. First the RoC has to remove economic isolation of TCs. Your idea that TCs should resist Turkey when RoC cannot, is almost as laughable as the idea that Palestinian Authority should sort out Hamas when Israel itself tried and failed.

Back to the real world.


The CTs (TC ones) are not isolated. They have EU pssports and RoC ID cards. They are also entitled to free RoC medical care.

Trade can only occur between countries. Since you are not a country, you are left between a RoC and hard place... :lol:

How does Taiwan or Kosovo do it then?


In Kossovo and Taiwan, the democratic majority wanted their independence.

Cyprus in comparison to both, was invaded and ethnically cleansed. The lands you occupy do not belong to you and that is why the "trnc" can never be recognised...
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Postby ahristos » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:24 am

THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:54 am

ahristos wrote:THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE



Excuse me!! HAF do not throw them out. TAF simply returns to base. What did you think they are ? an invasion force? :lol:
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Postby james_mav » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:06 am

denizaksulu wrote:
ahristos wrote:THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE



Excuse me!! HAF do not throw them out. TAF simply returns to base. What did you think they are ? an invasion force? :lol:

Can you explain to us the motivation for overflights of populated islands (or do you deny that they occur?). Forget the 6-10 nm issue, the allegations (which are very hard to verify unless one is standing there armed with binoculars, good eyesight, and extremely good luck) is that mogolistani jets overfly populated islands. What is the purpose of such a provocation? Surely nobody in mogolistan is stupid enough to think that this behaviour is intimidating the Greeks, or will establish any territorial rights for mogolistan, or deny any Greek territorial rights. Is it just the military acting independently of the government as a spoiler against better relations between the government and Greece and Cyprus?

Do you read any news sources that report on mongolistani reactions to or denials of accusations of overflights of populated islands in violation of irrefutable sovereigntly? (again, ignoring the 6/10 nm issue)? If so, can you inform us of the mogolistani position on these overflights?
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Postby EPSILON » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:13 am

denizaksulu wrote:
ahristos wrote:THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE



Excuse me!! HAF do not throw them out. TAF simply returns to base. What did you think they are ? an invasion force? :lol:


Funny position but ok no problem. Next time maybe HAF forced them to land in Bulgaria or FYROM (or most clever in Paphos) from where you will collect your pilots only since planes will be detained.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:14 am

james_mav wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ahristos wrote:THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE



Excuse me!! HAF do not throw them out. TAF simply returns to base. What did you think they are ? an invasion force? :lol:

Can you explain to us the motivation for overflights of populated islands (or do you deny that they occur?). Forget the 6-10 nm issue, the allegations (which are very hard to verify unless one is standing there armed with binoculars, good eyesight, and extremely good luck) is that mogolistani jets overfly populated islands. What is the purpose of such a provocation? Surely nobody in mogolistan is stupid enough to think that this behaviour is intimidating the Greeks, or will establish any territorial rights for mogolistan, or deny any Greek territorial rights. Is it just the military acting independently of the government as a spoiler against better relations between the government and Greece and Cyprus?

Do you read any news sources that report on mongolistani reactions to or denials of accusations of overflights of populated islands in violation of irrefutable sovereigntly? (again, ignoring the 6/10 nm issue)? If so, can you inform us of the mogolistani position on these overflights?



Do you understand English? Did I deny anything.

Where is Mongolistan? Now buzz off. :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:16 am

EPSILON wrote:
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ahristos wrote:THEY VIOLATE ALSO GREEK AIR SPACE
AND GREEKS THROW THEM OUT IN DAYLLY BASE



Excuse me!! HAF do not throw them out. TAF simply returns to base. What did you think they are ? an invasion force? :lol:


Funny position but ok no problem. Next time maybe HAF forced them to land in Bulgaria or FYROM (or most clever in Paphos) from where you will collect your pilots only since planes will be detained.



They are just games which both sides enjoy. If they dont like it then shoot them down. 8)
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