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"Authority in the occupied areas belongs to Ankara"

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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:20 pm

iceman wrote:YFred
You are yet again hijacking another thread..
why can you not accept some basic facts for a change..
The original post highlighted a very important factor regarding the Cyprus problem.

Iceman, please, did I say something out of turn. I was merely pointing out the inaccuracy of the Article in that if Ankara is in charge of TRNC and USA is in charge of Ankara, then you can draw your own conclusions.
Are you saying that USA has no sway in Ankara?
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Postby iceman » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:08 pm

YFred wrote:
iceman wrote:YFred
You are yet again hijacking another thread..
why can you not accept some basic facts for a change..
The original post highlighted a very important factor regarding the Cyprus problem.

Iceman, please, did I say something out of turn. I was merely pointing out the inaccuracy of the Article in that if Ankara is in charge of TRNC and USA is in charge of Ankara, then you can draw your own conclusions.
Are you saying that USA has no sway in Ankara?



There is no inaccuracy in the article..it is plain fact...Ankara has full authority in north Cyprus...full stop.
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Re: "Authority in the occupied areas belongs to Ankara&

Postby Kifeas » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:50 pm

YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:Just in case there was any doubt:

AFRIKA writes that the authority in the occupied areas belongs unconditionally to Ankara

On its daily Afrikadan mektup (Letter from Afrika) column, Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (17.06.09) writes, inter alia, that the party which holds power in the occupied areas may change, but the power, as such, does not change because it comes from Ankara. The paper goes on and writes the following: The Republican Turkish Party (CTP) left and the National Unity Party (UBP) came. What have changed in your lives? Nothing has changed. In the past, UBP left and CTP came. Nothing had changed then as well. If there were elections tomorrow, another party would come to power. What would have changed? Nothing would have changed. Why?

The reason is the following: The governments change but the power does not change. Because the authority unconditionally belongs to Ankara. All the basic policies are decided by Ankara. The packages come from Ankara. The duties of the TRNC governments are to implement these packages. The governments in Turkey change. The packages change together with the governments. However, the black fate of the Turkish Cypriots does not change. The davul (drum) is on the neck of every Cypriot, the drumstick in the hand of Ankara. They play and we dance.

Afrika has only done half a job here. Should have mentioned where Ankara or Athens or any other capital does gets its orders and then it would be worth considering. Who are we kidding here? We are only a small ship in the ocean trying to dodge tankers of all shapes and sizes.


YFred, where did you get this coffee shop type, foolish idea that Athens might be getting its orders from the US, when in fact only recently Athens went against the US will on three very crucial (one can’t find more crucial ones) cases.

1. The US objected Greece’s idea of having Russian oil pipe-lines pass through its territory and deliver gas and oil to Europe through the Aegean, because the US wanted the Caspian oils to by-pass Russia and only pass through Turkey. Yet, Greece went against the US will and signed with Russia the deal for such pipe-lines, which are already under construction.

2. The US wanted to have the “FYROM” as a member of NATO, yet Greece Vetoed the US initiative.

3. The US wants Kosovo’s recognition, yet Greece sides with Russia and objects its recognition.

Do you need more examples to be convinced that what you suggested -namely that Athens follows orders from the US, might not be so much the case?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:06 pm

Recommended reading-

The Turkish Cypriot Political Regime and the Role of Turkey

by Ahmet An

http://www.kibrisim.org/Kitaplar/dosya/ ... Turkey.pdf
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