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Postby roseandchan » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:56 pm

hi deniz,
what i have learnt is ,lots of places here in the north have the same names as places in turkey.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:32 pm

MrH wrote:... the Native language of "Northern Cyprus" is 98% Turkish ...


This is a strangely worded assertion, given that people and not territory have native languages, but if you walk around the streets of the walled section of north Nicosia, you are as likely to hear Kurdish or Arabic being spoken as Turkish. I believe there are Laz speakers around as well, although I have never heard it being spoken. Perhaps you are claiming that the native language of Turkish Cypriots is Turkish (which is a reasonable assertion), but the truth is that once you accept 'Northern Cyprus' as a separate political entity under the tutelage of Turkey, you have no choice but to accept the population that Turkey choses to settle/permit to settle there. Notice that Kurdish is gradually gaining semi-official status in the 'motherland' what with the TRT broadcasting in Kurdish, and a Kurdish language and literature department to open at the university of Mardin next academic year, and expect similar pressures to be exerted by speakers of other languages in 'Northern Cyprus'. As things stand, the place is going to become a lot more multilingual than your figure of 98% implies.
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:00 pm

The official languages are Greek & Turkish, and they shall remain as such. English should be removed from every official document, although it can remain for translation purposes (with unofficial status). No EU country, except UK/Ireland where english is the official language, uses english in their official documents.

I am happy to see that for the Cypriot EU coins only Greek and Turkish have been used! :D I hope to see that for the new Cypriot EU passports as well (I think it is an EU law to do so anyway). :wink:

The PAST:
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NOW & The FUTURE:
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Postby YFred » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:18 pm

kurupetos wrote:The official languages are Greek & Turkish, and they shall remain as such. English should be removed from every official document, although it can remain for translation purposes (with unofficial status). No EU country, except UK/Ireland where english is the official language, uses english in their official documents.

I am happy to see that for the Cypriot EU coins only Greek and Turkish have been used! :D I hope to see that for the new Cypriot EU passports as well (I think it is an EU law to do so anyway). :wink:

The PAST:
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NOW & The FUTURE:
Image :D

Oracle where are you? whats going on? Whats this Turkish on a Cypriot coin?
At this point I've just fainted. :shock: :shock:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:22 pm

roseandchan wrote:hi deniz,
what i have learnt is ,lots of places here in the north have the same names as places in turkey.



True. I was giving Ahristos a simple answer. But looking at the name of Dikmen, you can see the similarity. Yes, I believe AKSU also exists in Turkey too.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:35 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
roseandchan wrote:hi deniz,
what i have learnt is ,lots of places here in the north have the same names as places in turkey.



True. I was giving Ahristos a simple answer. But looking at the name of Dikmen, you can see the similarity. Yes, I believe AKSU also exists in Turkey too.


Deniz,

I have been to AKSU couple of times not too long ago, which is between Antalya and Belek, and if you are wondering why it is called AKSU, is because of this, which runs right into the sea.!

Also, Dikmen is a very well know district in Ankara.!

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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
roseandchan wrote:hi deniz,
what i have learnt is ,lots of places here in the north have the same names as places in turkey.



True. I was giving Ahristos a simple answer. But looking at the name of Dikmen, you can see the similarity. Yes, I believe AKSU also exists in Turkey too.


Deniz,

I have been to AKSU couple of times not too long ago, which is between Antalya and Belek, and if you are wondering why it is called AKSU, is because of this, which runs right into the sea.!

Also, Dikmen is a very well know district in Ankara.!

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Thanks Kiks. I know the names exist in Turkey too. What I was pointing out was that there was no logic in the application of the new Turkish names. Compare AKSU near BELEK and our arid village for example.

Cevizli is another village where I have family connections. I do not remember seeing any Ceviz there!! It was simply syn-phonic with Kivisili.(Civisil)


I wonder if there is a Gecitkale in Turkey?

As I said, the names were just picked up from the air.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:49 pm

Can I just say that I don't approve of state controlled languages like Greek (and Turkish?). Language belongs to the People and should be defined only by the People and not codified in bleeding Athenisia (or Ankara?).

The CY dialect is the way forward.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:12 am

kurupetos wrote:Image :D


Nice crucifix .... :lol:

The English was removed to avoid confusion with coins issued in the UK.

The Turkish will be removed once re-unification is complete to avoid a jinx :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:16 am

Oracle wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Image :D


Nice crucifix .... :lol:

The English was removed to avoid confusion with coins issued in the UK.

The Turkish will be removed once re-unification is complete to avoid a jinx :wink:


Silly girl.

That is Oracle spreading her arms to embrace Miltiades.

I am getting jealouse :lol:


btw. A crucifix is a depiction of JC on a cross.
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