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[YFred]

Turkey starts military exercise off Cyprus coast


www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-17 05:58:12

NICOSIA, June 16 (Xinhua) -- Turkish forces started on Tuesday a search and rescue exercise off the northeastern coast of the divided Cyprus, prompting protest from the Cypriot government.

The three-day Caner Gonyeli Exercise, named after a Turkish soldier who was killed during the 1974 military intervention, will be mainly staged near the Karpasia Peninsula, with the participation of the breakaway Turkish Cypriot forces.

The internationally recognized Cyprus government, which effectively controls the Greek Cypriot south, has made strong demarches to the United Nations and the European Union, saying the exercise infringes on the island's sovereign right, territorial waters and its airspace.

Government spokesmen Stephanos Stephanou noted that the Turkish exercise may be linked to Turkey's objection to the government's search for oil in its exclusive economic zone.

"We have a sovereign right to carry out research in our exclusive economic zone, in accordance with the Law of the Sea convention and this is what we are doing," said Stephanou.

Turkey is at odds with Cyprus' move to hand out oil and gas project licenses in the Mediterranean. Ankara argues that Turkish Cypriots living in the breakaway north should have a say in the undersea wealth and that Turkey has its own rights and interests in the region.

Cyprus has remained divided since 1974 when the Turkish military intervened and occupied the island's north following a coup by a group of Greek officers.

Turkish Cypriot authorities in 1983 declared the establishment of the breakaway Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which is recognized only by Turkey. Ankara has no diplomatic relations with the Republic of Cyprus, an EU member state since May 2004.

The Cypriot government has said that Turkey's threats and demands for its oil exploration rights in the eastern Mediterranean Sea would hinder Ankara's EU accession.

Don't worry dear, EU will protect you!

[EPSILON]

Turkey starts military exercise off Cyprus coast


www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-17 05:58:12

NICOSIA, June 16 (Xinhua) -- Turkish forces started on Tuesday a search and rescue exercise off the northeastern coast of the divided Cyprus, prompting protest from the Cypriot government.

The three-day Caner Gonyeli Exercise, named after a Turkish soldier who was killed during the 1974 military intervention, will be mainly staged near the Karpasia Peninsula, with the participation of the breakaway Turkish Cypriot forces.

The internationally recognized Cyprus government, which effectively controls the Greek Cypriot south, has made strong demarches to the United Nations and the European Union, saying the exercise infringes on the island's sovereign right, territorial waters and its airspace.

Government spokesmen Stephanos Stephanou noted that the Turkish exercise may be linked to Turkey's objection to the government's search for oil in its exclusive economic zone.

"We have a sovereign right to carry out research in our exclusive economic zone, in accordance with the Law of the Sea convention and this is what we are doing," said Stephanou.

Turkey is at odds with Cyprus' move to hand out oil and gas project licenses in the Mediterranean. Ankara argues that Turkish Cypriots living in the breakaway north should have a say in the undersea wealth and that Turkey has its own rights and interests in the region.

Cyprus has remained divided since 1974 when the Turkish military intervened and occupied the island's north following a coup by a group of Greek officers.

Turkish Cypriot authorities in 1983 declared the establishment of the breakaway Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which is recognized only by Turkey. Ankara has no diplomatic relations with the Republic of Cyprus, an EU member state since May 2004.

The Cypriot government has said that Turkey's threats and demands for its oil exploration rights in the eastern Mediterranean Sea would hinder Ankara's EU accession.

Don't worry dear, EU will protect you!

The reply reminds me the usual Ottomans megalomania.Even Ertogan slowly slowly appearing like a sultan in his political relations with other countries.Turkey will never learn. It will always became shorter and shorter because of its megalomania and history is not written within 40-50 years..

[Oracle]

Turkey causes fury with military exercise in Cyprus


FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE 17.JUN.09

Cyprus has made an urgent plea to the United Nations and the European Union to denounce Turkish military exercises in the Karpass area, on the north-eastern tip of the country, which is still under Turkish occupation.

Government Spokesman Stephanos Stephanou has said that the exercises violate the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus, its air space and territorial waters.

He said that the Turkish exercises may be linked to efforts by the government to explore and exploit hydrocarbon reserves in its exclusive economic zone.

“If these efforts succeed, whatever benefit may come our way, through a political settlement, this benefit will go to Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots," he said.

Stephanou said that the exercise bears the name of a Turkish soldier who was killed during the Turkish invasion in Cyprus in 1974, adding the exercise will last "a few days".

"The essence of the matter is that Turkey continues to violate the airspace and territorial waters and obviously the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus, that is why we have protested, denouncing such moves," the spokesman said.

Stephanou said the exercise, as far as he knows, takes place in the Karpass area.

“We have a sovereign right to carry out research in our exclusive economic zone, in accordance with the Law of the Sea convention and this is what we are doing."

He reiterated that the prospect of benefits from such research could act as an additional incentive to continue efforts to reach a negotiated settlement where Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots will reap the fruits of a solution. - (KYPE)

[DT.]

Turkey starts military exercise off Cyprus coast


www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-17 05:58:12

NICOSIA, June 16 (Xinhua) -- Turkish forces started on Tuesday a search and rescue exercise off the northeastern coast of the divided Cyprus, prompting protest from the Cypriot government.

The three-day Caner Gonyeli Exercise, named after a Turkish soldier who was killed during the 1974 military intervention, will be mainly staged near the Karpasia Peninsula, with the participation of the breakaway Turkish Cypriot forces.

The internationally recognized Cyprus government, which effectively controls the Greek Cypriot south, has made strong demarches to the United Nations and the European Union, saying the exercise infringes on the island's sovereign right, territorial waters and its airspace.

Government spokesmen Stephanos Stephanou noted that the Turkish exercise may be linked to Turkey's objection to the government's search for oil in its exclusive economic zone.

"We have a sovereign right to carry out research in our exclusive economic zone, in accordance with the Law of the Sea convention and this is what we are doing," said Stephanou.

Turkey is at odds with Cyprus' move to hand out oil and gas project licenses in the Mediterranean. Ankara argues that Turkish Cypriots living in the breakaway north should have a say in the undersea wealth and that Turkey has its own rights and interests in the region.

Cyprus has remained divided since 1974 when the Turkish military intervened and occupied the island's north following a coup by a group of Greek officers.

Turkish Cypriot authorities in 1983 declared the establishment of the breakaway Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which is recognized only by Turkey. Ankara has no diplomatic relations with the Republic of Cyprus, an EU member state since May 2004.

The Cypriot government has said that Turkey's threats and demands for its oil exploration rights in the eastern Mediterranean Sea would hinder Ankara's EU accession.

Don't worry dear, EU will protect you!

Anything happens to us, how safe do you think tc's will be on this island?

[Oracle]

Cyprus protests air traffic violations by Turkey

June 17, 2009 - by Apostolis Zoupaniotis, UN for CNA

Cyprus’ Permanent Representative to the UN, Minas A. Hadjimichael, in a letter to the UN Secretary General, protested new violations of the international air traffic regulations and the national airspace of the Republic of Cyprus by military aircraft of the Turkish Air Force recorded from 1st April until 28 May 2009.

In a letter, which is dated 5 June 2009 and was circulated on Tuesday as a document of the General Assembly and of the Security Council, Hadjimichael strongly protested the violations by Turkey and called for their immediate cessation.

He said “Turkey’s policy of non-observance of rules and regulations governing international aviation continues to gravely jeopardize flight safety and perpetuate insecurity and apprehension on the island”.

Furthermore, he added, “Turkey’s persistent provocations, aimed at consolidating the de facto division of Cyprus and further strengthening the illegal secessionist entity in the occupied areas, seriously undermine all efforts towards reunification and reconciliation''.

Such policies and actions, he noted in the letter, ''provide ample demonstration of the irresponsible behaviour of a country that now serves as a non-permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations”.

Hadjimichael said it was ''encouraging to see that in the recent report of the Secretary-General on the United Nations Operations in Cyprus (S/2009/248), there was a reference to some of the aforementioned violations by Turkey''.

''The Government of Turkey should heed the call of the international community, abide by the Charter of the United Nations and respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus, thus contributing to the creation of the required conditions for the achievement of a just and viable solution to the Cyprus problem'', the Cypriot diplomat noted.

Source: financialmirror.com

[Get Real!]

HS THEMISTOKLIS

Just as I thought... Greek shit!

Listen to me Epsilon, Greece will NEVER EVER EVER EVER waste a drop of their blood for Cyprus. Believe it and quit living in dreams!

Maybe you are right but this is one thing. The important is why ROC is allowing Greek foreign minister to make holidays (last 7 years) about Cyprus problem.May be they (G/c leaders ) consider that by convisting Turks that they are Cypriots and not G Cypriots Turks will lieve Cyprus. In this regard i repat youes NEVER NEVER NEVER.As much Cypriots we became so deep the Turkish soldiers seatting in our land.

Listen to me carefully… they’ve already tried the Greek mythological SHIT for more than half a century and ended up with 37% of Cypriot territory turned into Ottoman!

How much more time do you need to realize that Greece is fuck-all for Cyprus? Another half a century, so that the rest of Cypriot territory is gone?

Cyprus should forget about Greece altogether and concentrate on new allies like France which is docked in Paphos and has already given us so much technology and firepower, and start getting more aggressive toward Turkey… little incidents here and there…etc. Unless your neighbors are convinced that you are prepared to take casualties to stand your ground nobody will ever respect you!

[Icarus]

All the RoC requires is a few Gun Boats, or Fast Attack Craft.

We’ve already got small patrol gun boats but they’re not good enough against the Turkish navy on their own. If it comes to a confrontation our best bet is to use our squadron of Mi-35Ps loaded with Exocet AM39s.

This what we actually need-and is available free of charge

Whose is that?

That’s the problem with some of you Cypriots… you always assume that someone else will spill their blood for you when you’re not even prepared to spill yours to protect your own turf!

What the hell did the NG buy all this shit for costing billions of dollars if we must still expect others to “come”!

I agree with you.

Cyprus needs to develop an effective naval fleet of small Fast Attack Craft. Not the types it has in service right now, but ones that carry a substantial punch - Exocet SSM or Penguin SSM.

We need to be self reliant and not expect anyone to protect our EEZ and Oil and Gas reserves for us. I can't believe the Cyprus government is not doing this right now so that it can escort any exploration or drilling vessels.

When Cyprus does this, then it is in a better position to ask for help from other valuable allies.

If Cyprus does not do this, then the allies which just think there is no point.

[james_mav]

All the RoC requires is a few Gun Boats, or Fast Attack Craft.

We’ve already got small patrol gun boats but they’re not good enough against the Turkish navy on their own. If it comes to a confrontation our best bet is to use our squadron of Mi-35Ps loaded with Exocet AM39s.

Yes, I think I've seen these boats moored at a base near a village on the south coast, a village with some excellent fish restaurants. I had something a little more substantial in mind.

Whatever is needed in this area must be done. To do nothing sends the wrong messages and is negligent.

In fact to do something is reckless and negligent. There will not be a shooting war over this; to needlessly squander billions of euros on warships that are not necessary would be insane.

I do not think it would cost billions of euros for a couple of second hand boats of suitable size as ... A Deterent.

It certainly would cost that much for boats that would any hope against the mongolistan navy.

Although the mongolistan navy is only of intermediate quality, in order to survive in particular against mongolistan submarines and aircraft, a greenwater Cypriot navy would need very expensive and sophisticated anti-aircraft and anti-submarine warfare systems, including long range tracking radars, high end sonar, long-range surface to air missiles capable of engaging high performance F-16s, heavyweight torpedoes capable of engaging deep diving submarines, probably an ASW helicopter platform, and a credible anti-ship armament. The lack of air cover is a major concern; it is very hard for surface warships to defend themselves against high performance aircraft at close quarters.

And don't forget the time it would take to acquire the boats and train up crews. Fantasyland I'm afraid.

The only realistic and cost effective maritime defense deployable against a greenwater navy by Cyprus would be mobile, land-based anti-ship missiles. These are basically tracked vehicles (i.e. the base of a tank) that carry either a search radar, missile launchers, or spare missiles. You spread them out along the coastlines you control, and keep moving them around (especially the radars) to prevent your enemy locating and destroying them. Someone also mentioned exocet-armed helicopters. This is possible, but again the lack of a credible defense against high performance F-16s means that helicopters in an anti-shipping role are not likely to survive long, so you will need quite a few of them, and be prepared to lose some.

Sorry for the pessimistic assessment, but as far as maritime defense and air cover go, the only hope for Cyprus is the Hellenic navy and air force, respectively.

[Get Real!]

The only realistic and cost effective maritime defense deployable against a greenwater navy by Cyprus would be mobile, land-based anti-ship missiles.

We already have the Exoset MM40 for that, but all the Turkish fleet has to do is drop anchor out of range rendering them useless, that’s why attack choppers that can travel at 360Km p/h, use sophisticated radar and armed with anti-ship missiles, are the way to go!

[denizaksulu]

Turkey starts military exercise off Cyprus coast


www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-17 05:58:12

NICOSIA, June 16 (Xinhua) -- Turkish forces started on Tuesday a search and rescue exercise off the northeastern coast of the divided Cyprus, prompting protest from the Cypriot government.

The three-day Caner Gonyeli Exercise, named after a Turkish soldier who was killed during the 1974 military intervention, will be mainly staged near the Karpasia Peninsula, with the participation of the breakaway Turkish Cypriot forces.

The internationally recognized Cyprus government, which effectively controls the Greek Cypriot south, has made strong demarches to the United Nations and the European Union, saying the exercise infringes on the island's sovereign right, territorial waters and its airspace.

Government spokesmen Stephanos Stephanou noted that the Turkish exercise may be linked to Turkey's objection to the government's search for oil in its exclusive economic zone.

"We have a sovereign right to carry out research in our exclusive economic zone, in accordance with the Law of the Sea convention and this is what we are doing," said Stephanou.

Turkey is at odds with Cyprus' move to hand out oil and gas project licenses in the Mediterranean. Ankara argues that Turkish Cypriots living in the breakaway north should have a say in the undersea wealth and that Turkey has its own rights and interests in the region.

Cyprus has remained divided since 1974 when the Turkish military intervened and occupied the island's north following a coup by a group of Greek officers.

Turkish Cypriot authorities in 1983 declared the establishment of the breakaway Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which is recognized only by Turkey. Ankara has no diplomatic relations with the Republic of Cyprus, an EU member state since May 2004.

The Cypriot government has said that Turkey's threats and demands for its oil exploration rights in the eastern Mediterranean Sea would hinder Ankara's EU accession.

Don't worry dear, EU will protect you!

Anything happens to us, how safe do you think tc's will be on this island?

GR and his mercenaries will protect us!!