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[Icarus]

Icarus, you just don't understand the relationship between Turkey and USA.

Oh yes...

America is going to ditch her multi billion dollar Oil and Gas interests in Cyprus for better relations with Turkey is it?

The Americans have signed a multi billion dollar oil and gas contract with the internationally recognised RoC. They are not going to abandon this for anyone.

Send in your whole navy and air force, if you feel so brash. I will just sit back and watch the thriller unfold....

[james_mav]

Icarus, you just don't understand the relationship between Turkey and USA.

I know mogoloi are prone to overplay their hand, but come on.

How much leverage do you suppose that mongolistan holds over the US? How much bargaining do you suppose the US is going to entertain when it comes to her access to energy? None. Acquiescing to mongolistan on energy is to invite every single one of America's energy "partners" (i.e. the entire Arab middle east that supplies the US with oil on a preferential basis) to question the skewed bargain they have with the US. It's just not going to happen, for reasons that have nothing to do with the Cyprus dispute.

The over arching purpose of the United States' foreign policy is to regulate global trade flows (both raw materials and export markets) on US terms. The number one trade flow the US concerns herself with protecting is...energy. No amount of threats, tantrums, or pleading from mongolistan is going to sway the US once they have gained access to a source of raw materials.

[EPSILON]

The claim today was made by a Turkish General that The GC's want Karpasia because there's oil off its coast. The comment of the day came later though when he said that there is more chance of the Greeks getting Smyrni than Karpasia.

Where is Smyrni? may one enquire?

Izmir. You know you really need to brush up on your history. Its not that long ago that Smyrni was a vibrant Greek city.

In all the history books TC and UK I have never heard it called anything else. You live and learn. Although I think he was exaggerating a tad. Karpaz was on the cards, to be given back, but the economic zone of the med sea is another matter. I don't envy your position, you will have to make the mountain come to you, you've got more chance of that.

here's a book to start with.
http://www.greecetravel.com/smyrna/

When Turkey joins the EU, may be you will get Izmir back too one day.

Similar declaration was for Thessaloniki and West Thrace - do you remember?Oh i forgot we had some invators much southern-in Peloponnisos!!do you know something about? You took the most beautiful and high standard city of Europe (that time) "SMIRNI" and you just made it an Anatolian village-like you did with INSTANBUL (A big part of it) (This you call it correctly with its original name -IS TIN POLIN.

[EPSILON]

Turkey stages Cyprus drill amid dispute


16th June 2009

Turkish and Turkish Cypriot forces are staging a joint search and rescue exercise in Cyprus amid a dispute with Greek Cypriots over oil and gas exploration off the island.

Turkish Cypriot forces chief Maj. Gen. Abdullah Recep says the three-day drill on the ethnically-split island is not a show of force. But he added that Cyprus' search for mineral deposits off its south coast ignores the rights of breakaway Turkish Cypriots.

The exercise started Tuesday.

Greek Cypriot government officials say they have protested to the United Nations and the European Union.


http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news


Territory, homes, land, now Oil ... what more could these invaders suck from us?

"Protested to UN and EU" Funny procedure indeed. So many years the only thing G/cs doing is that protests.Have we ever heard about VETO in EU? Have we ever heart about demand from guarantors countries to defend Cyprus territory as they oblidge to do? Have we even think that Greece must be FORCED repeat be forced (by political statements) to undertake its liabilities and stop having its foreign minister making holidays during the last 7 years? But we have just decided that we ,as super power, will defend ourselves alone.

[bill cobbett]

Quite right Epsilon, CY must defend itself cos when push comes to shove it can rely on no one.

Given the huge oil reserves and aggresive, warmongering neighbour, CY must spend money on a small naval force to deter aggression and to defend its Economic Zone.

Pres X mate, scrap the Highway north from Paphos and spend the money on some boats instead.

[EPSILON]

Quite right Epsilon, CY must defend itself cos when push comes to shove it can rely on no one.

Given the huge oil reserves and aggresive, warmongering neighbour, CY must spend money on a small naval force to deter aggression and to defend its Economic Zone.

Pres X mate, scrap the Highway north from Paphos and spend the money on some boats instead.

Even ROC sell all its citizens as slaves will not be capable to defend itselve militarily against Turkey alone-This is one fact. But to go to the other side asking just resolutions and say yes to all int bodies regarding Turkey is something very strange.I thing a secret agreement was made somewhere/someday resulting this attitude!!!

[YFred]

Quite right Epsilon, CY must defend itself cos when push comes to shove it can rely on no one.

Given the huge oil reserves and aggresive, warmongering neighbour, CY must spend money on a small naval force to deter aggression and to defend its Economic Zone.

Pres X mate, scrap the Highway north from Paphos and spend the money on some boats instead.

You will need more than just a small naval force dear boy, perhaps hire the 6th fleet for the duration? You might just have a chance.

Although there are alternative methods, like with the Egyptians, Israelis and Lebanese, try talking and agreeing, it would be to the benefit of all concerned, wouldn't you say?

[Icarus]

Quite right Epsilon, CY must defend itself cos when push comes to shove it can rely on no one.

Given the huge oil reserves and aggresive, warmongering neighbour, CY must spend money on a small naval force to deter aggression and to defend its Economic Zone.

Pres X mate, scrap the Highway north from Paphos and spend the money on some boats instead.

You will need more than just a small naval force dear boy, perhaps hire the 6th fleet for the duration? You might just have a chance.

Although there are alternative methods, like with the Egyptians, Israelis and Lebanese, try talking and agreeing, it would be to the benefit of all concerned, wouldn't you say?

We have agreed with the Egyptians, Lebanese and Israelis.

There is no one else to agree with. The Oil and Gas is off our southern shores.

All the RoC requires is a few Gun Boats, or Fast Attack Craft.

The US Navy 6th Fleet will come free of charge. All they need to do is park the Saratoga nearby. And this is exactly what they would do if they thought Turkey will challenge their exploration efforts.

May I also remind you that Israel is another country that has interests in RoC oil and gas.

So please. Go right ahead, and send in your navy....

I will be watching CNN, eating my popcorn...

[YFred]

Quite right Epsilon, CY must defend itself cos when push comes to shove it can rely on no one.

Given the huge oil reserves and aggresive, warmongering neighbour, CY must spend money on a small naval force to deter aggression and to defend its Economic Zone.

Pres X mate, scrap the Highway north from Paphos and spend the money on some boats instead.

You will need more than just a small naval force dear boy, perhaps hire the 6th fleet for the duration? You might just have a chance.

Although there are alternative methods, like with the Egyptians, Israelis and Lebanese, try talking and agreeing, it would be to the benefit of all concerned, wouldn't you say?

We have agreed with the Egyptians, Lebanese and Israelis.

There is no one else to agree with. The Oil and Gas is off our southern shores.

All the RoC requires is a few Gun Boats, or Fast Attack Craft.

The US Navy 6th Fleet will come free of charge. All they need to do is park the Saratoga nearby. And this is exactly what they would do if they thought Turkey will challenge their exploration efforts.

May I also remind you that Israel is another country that has interests in RoC oil and gas.

So please. Go right ahead, and send in your navy....

I will be watching CNN, eating my popcorn...

Learning must never stop. We have so much to learn in life.
Get your measuring tape out and measure how far Egypt is from prospective oil fileds and the same for Turkey. You may be in for a shock.
BTW how many miles of sea does RoC claim?

[Get Real!]

All the RoC requires is a few Gun Boats, or Fast Attack Craft.

We’ve already got small patrol gun boats but they’re not good enough against the Turkish navy on their own. If it comes to a confrontation our best bet is to use our squadron of Mi-35Ps loaded with Exocet AM39s.