YFred wrote:james_mav wrote:EPSILON wrote:halil wrote:Talat will discuss the Cyprus issue and the ongoing negotiations process with the Finish officials.
The President will embark his contacts on Wednesday with a meeting with Finish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb at 1pm local time.
Later in the day, he will come together with the former Foreign Minister Finish MP Erkki Tuomioja and Finish MP Jaakko Laakso respectively.
Within the framework of his contacts, the TRNC President will also come together with representatives of various media organizations and exchanged view on the Cyprus issue and on course of the negotiation process.
The President is expected to return on Friday evening.
Halil, i was always wondering under wich passport Talat is travelling to Europe.Can you please give me some details?
Maybe he bought a citizenship from from these
guys
Well TRNC residents have been using TRNC passports for 35 years - it's accepted all over the world accept RoC and Greece I suspect?
Is that why you get separate stamped visas?
Get real
Its Republic of Cyprus passports all the way. Unless you're travelling to turkey when you can just flash your pac-man "trnc ID card.
Here's a personal acount from a TC
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As you said the situation is (was) rather complicated. After the war in 1974, Turkish Cypriots gathered in the northern part of the island and have had their own administration. In 1975 we declared the Turkish Federated State of Cyprus (hoping for a future federal re-union). Our local authorities issued 'travel documents'. In 1979, I traveled to UK with that document. The British immigration officer, looked at it and literally 'threw' it under the counter (on his desk). Then he pulled a pen and paper and started asking me questions, which the answers were already written in my travel document. I got furstrated and we had a short row. Finally he gave me a six month visa, which he stamped on a simple piece of paper.
In 1983, we declared independence and established the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), which issued TRNC passports. Some countries gave us visas by looking at these passports (on a separate piece of paper, not stamped in the passport). Countries like UK, France, Germany, USA etc. did this. They had (still have) some kind of offices in the north. Upon application for a visa, they asked for some other documents and if convinced of our purpose of travel, they gave us a tourist or students visa.
After the opening of the check points on the Green Line, a lot of us 'original' Turkish Cypriots, who had been citizens of the Rep. of Cyprus before the war (and their children) obtained Rep. of Cyprus ID cards and passports. We are entitled to these documents because the Greek Cypriot authorities still consider us as citizens of the republic (so does the rest of the world). With the entry of R.of Cyprus into EU, we have become EU citizens (at least on paper and on individual bases). Nowadays it is very easy to travel with those passports. USA still requires a visa.
We can travel to Turkey with our TRNC ID cards.
As you can see, we are internationally accepted as citizens of the R. of Cyprus. Some people still travel with a TRNC passport, or get a Turkish passport, however, these documents require a visa from most countries and entry is rather difficult. I had such a travel to Belgium back in 2000 (with a Turkish passport and a visa obtained from the Belgian Embassy in Ankara). I was treated like a 'second class' human being at Brussels Airport!
Those Turkish Cypriots whose one parent is a Turkish citizen, and got married in Cyprus after 1974, are still denied a R.of Cyprus passport. Greek Cypriots do not accept those marriages as valid. If the marriage took place in Turkey or elsewhere, then it is accepted and a passport can be issued after a lengthy procedure. It is strange, because my marriage to my wife (who is also a Turkish Cypriot) was not questioned by them.
We're not in the middle ages anymore halil
