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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:17 am

DT. wrote:
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humanist wrote:VP your guns left my grandmother having to bury her 17 year old son .... so take your comment and shove it


Im sorry for your loss and I wish it never happened but read Oracles comments to see the real GC mindset, thats why we need safeguards to make people like oracle do the right thing otherwise they will be the cause of your whole family being wiped out.


So who are the fanatics that killed that boy vp? And who are the fanatics that killed GC babies? Are we mad to trust your fanatics?


No I dont ask that, you to need safeguards as well and I understand your fear of the Turkish Army thats why I agree they should leave as soon as we agree a comprehensive solution.


TC's active in the TMT are guilty of killing GC babies too VP. What do we do with the TC's to regain our trust?

Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:33 am

YFred wrote:Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.

:shock: I know it's the Ottoman way, but you'll find GCs don't appreciate bankruptcy and 3rd world standards... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:34 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.

:shock: I know it's the Ottoman way, but you'll find GCs don't appreciate bankruptcy and 3rd world standards... :lol:

Mahima je ksimahima en gonda gonda.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:40 am

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.

:shock: I know it's the Ottoman way, but you'll find GCs don't appreciate bankruptcy and 3rd world standards... :lol:

Mahima je ksimahima en gonda gonda.

Mathima re Tourkospore! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:50 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.

:shock: I know it's the Ottoman way, but you'll find GCs don't appreciate bankruptcy and 3rd world standards... :lol:

Mahima je ksimahima en gonda gonda.

Mathima re Tourkospore! :lol:

Do I have to learn you everything? it's not greek, it's Lurucadi.
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Postby Icarus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:47 am

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:Just listen to Talat, he'll tell you what needs to be done. He is looking after your interests as well as TC's.

:shock: I know it's the Ottoman way, but you'll find GCs don't appreciate bankruptcy and 3rd world standards... :lol:

Mahima je ksimahima en gonda gonda.

Mathima re Tourkospore! :lol:

Do I have to learn you everything? it's not greek, it's Lurucadi.


Is that Lurucadi English? :lol:

Try replacing the learn with teach next time... :wink:
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Postby Icarus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:03 am

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humanist wrote:What is most interesting is that in the midsts of unification the Turks who live in Cyprus rather secure the rights of Britons who similar to them will violate other Cypriots human rights than actually honour and respect their compatriots. Good one peoples


Compatriots? those that buried 16 months old babies alive? and will stab us in the back if left at their mercy. Time you GCs proved you are not as bad as we think you are all you do is confirm our worst fears.


I have never heard of any 16 month old babies being buried alive.

But I know of 3 Greek Cypriot ladies that got raped by Turkish Soldiers and another 3 month old baby given soapy water and vinegar to drink by Turkish Soldiers, because it was crying from hunger and thirst.

The fact you chose to ignore, is that there were absolutely no TC casualties immediately prior to the Turkish Invasion. It is only when the Turkish Army landed on Cyprus, when some fanatic GC "heroes" targeted some TC civilians, and even then your casualties were few, whereas our casualties were many thousands.

This is why the Greek Cypriots have legitimate security concerns and will never accept any solution encompassing a Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey itself. Talat knows this very well and so does Turkey.

What you fail to comprehend is the fact that things are beyond your control and the "TRNC" will be dissolved in due course. Turkey's EU accession depends on this. Quite clearly, there are other factors at stake, and never before has the RoC's hand been as strong. Things are beginning to change and soon Turkey will pull the rug from under your feet. Reality will hit home very hard..
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:58 am

Icarus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:What is most interesting is that in the midsts of unification the Turks who live in Cyprus rather secure the rights of Britons who similar to them will violate other Cypriots human rights than actually honour and respect their compatriots. Good one peoples


Compatriots? those that buried 16 months old babies alive? and will stab us in the back if left at their mercy. Time you GCs proved you are not as bad as we think you are all you do is confirm our worst fears.


I have never heard of any 16 month old babies being buried alive.

But I know of 3 Greek Cypriot ladies that got raped by Turkish Soldiers and another 3 month old baby given soapy water and vinegar to drink by Turkish Soldiers, because it was crying from hunger and thirst.

The fact you chose to ignore, is that there were absolutely no TC casualties immediately prior to the Turkish Invasion. It is only when the Turkish Army landed on Cyprus, when some fanatic GC "heroes" targeted some TC civilians, and even then your casualties were few, whereas our casualties were many thousands.

This is why the Greek Cypriots have legitimate security concerns and will never accept any solution encompassing a Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey itself. Talat knows this very well and so does Turkey.

What you fail to comprehend is the fact that things are beyond your control and the "TRNC" will be dissolved in due course. Turkey's EU accession depends on this. Quite clearly, there are other factors at stake, and never before has the RoC's hand been as strong. Things are beginning to change and soon Turkey will pull the rug from under your feet. Reality will hit home very hard..


Welcome to CF Icarus.

I share the view that Tnuc-land is on the ropes, having taken beatings from things such as the ECJ judgement, the cold welcome by Jurkey to the assistant muhktari a few days ago, pressure for progress this year on Jurkish EU ambitions.

I do hope Pres X appreciates the strength of his position.
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:21 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:What is most interesting is that in the midsts of unification the Turks who live in Cyprus rather secure the rights of Britons who similar to them will violate other Cypriots human rights than actually honour and respect their compatriots. Good one peoples


Compatriots? those that buried 16 months old babies alive? and will stab us in the back if left at their mercy. Time you GCs proved you are not as bad as we think you are all you do is confirm our worst fears.


I have never heard of any 16 month old babies being buried alive.

But I know of 3 Greek Cypriot ladies that got raped by Turkish Soldiers and another 3 month old baby given soapy water and vinegar to drink by Turkish Soldiers, because it was crying from hunger and thirst.

The fact you chose to ignore, is that there were absolutely no TC casualties immediately prior to the Turkish Invasion. It is only when the Turkish Army landed on Cyprus, when some fanatic GC "heroes" targeted some TC civilians, and even then your casualties were few, whereas our casualties were many thousands.

This is why the Greek Cypriots have legitimate security concerns and will never accept any solution encompassing a Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey itself. Talat knows this very well and so does Turkey.

What you fail to comprehend is the fact that things are beyond your control and the "TRNC" will be dissolved in due course. Turkey's EU accession depends on this. Quite clearly, there are other factors at stake, and never before has the RoC's hand been as strong. Things are beginning to change and soon Turkey will pull the rug from under your feet. Reality will hit home very hard..


Welcome to CF Icarus.

I share the view that Tnuc-land is on the ropes, having taken beatings from things such as the ECJ judgement, the cold welcome by Jurkey to the assistant muhktari a few days ago, pressure for progress this year on Jurkish EU ambitions.

I do hope Pres X appreciates the strength of his position.

Bill, read the judgment carefully, it is not a political judgment and there are no political remedies in it. In fact the Orams look as though they will use this aspect to defeat it. Stop kidding yourself and others that in some way this is a tool for the GC government to use to beat anyone with. It’s a stick made of candy mate, like the Brighton rock.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:45 am

YFred wrote:Bill, read the judgment carefully, it is not a political judgment and there are no political remedies in it. In fact the Orams look as though they will use this aspect to defeat it. Stop kidding yourself and others that in some way this is a tool for the GC government to use to beat anyone with. It’s a stick made of candy mate, like the Brighton rock.


Were you not telling us few weeks ago that the ECJ ruling was a "political judgement" therefore it should be refused by the British Courts, but now you are saying it is NOT a Political Judgement. Glad that you have seen the LIGHT.! As for the Orams, they have even less chance of overturning the ECJ judgement if it was not a Political one, which it was not..........directly !.

Nice one, YFred.!
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