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Touble on the home front for the "prime minister"

Postby james_mav » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:20 am

The tourkomogolo "prime minister" didn't get the reception he expected during his visit to tourkomogolistan:

Eroğlu receives cold welcome
ANKARA - Prime Minister Derviş Eroğlu of northern Cyprus, who is currently paying a formal visit to Turkey, met with Turkish officials in Ankara on Friday.

Eroğlu met with Turkish State Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Çiçek at the Prime Ministry headquarters. The Turkish Cypriot prime minister later held talks with Turkish State Minister and Deputy Premier Bülent Arınç.

Speaking during the meeting, Arınç said Turkey respected the political choice of Turkish Cypriot citizens, adding that he hoped the new government in northern Cyprus would take steps that would yield stable and successful results. "Turkey has always extended support to [northern Cyprus] for the resolution of the current problems in the country. We will continue to do so," Arınç said.

The trip to Turkey was Eroğlu’s first official visit abroad after being elected prime minister of northern Cyprus. An official ceremony was arranged at the office of the Turkish prime minister, but observers noted that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gave Eroğlu a chilly welcome. Even though the two prime ministers were supposed to walk side-by-side after shaking hands, Erdoğan paced Eroğlu, and then walked in front of him. After the meeting, Eroğlu said the government was aware of the fact that northern Cyprus is not a self-sufficient country.


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11855683.asp?scr=1
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:08 am

Have noted your warn support of the Turkish position as regards the existence of two nations in Cyprus , the Hellenic South and the Turkish North.
The RoC of course , and rightly so , challenges this Turkish held view and has the wide support of the Cypriot people who want unification creating one nation , one international voice and above all retaining the Cypriot identity.
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Postby james_mav » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:31 am

miltiades wrote:Have noted your warn support of the Turkish position as regards the existence of two nations in Cyprus , the Hellenic South and the Turkish North.
The RoC of course , and rightly so , challenges this Turkish held view and has the wide support of the Cypriot people who want unification creating one nation , one international voice and above all retaining the Cypriot identity.

We have been over this before, there is only one nation in Cyprus - the Hellenic Republic of Cyprus, which contains a significant muslim minority. A situation very similar to that in the Hellenic Republic, except that the muslims in Cyprus make up a larger minority than there co-religionists do in the Hellenic Republic.

Fanciful ideas of a bizonal, bicommuninal federation are just that - fanciful. Pursuing these ideas will merely set back the resolution of the Cyprus problem another decade or two. We're going to get to were we're going; the longer it takes to get there, the longer the muslim minority of Cyprus will have to wait before they enjoy the benefits of being members of an EU member state. And of course for the τουρκομόγκολο patrons of Cyprus' muslim minority, the deeper their isolation within Europe.

The "Cypriot" identity is also ground we have covered. We concluded that there was no such thing; in Cyprus there is the Greek ethnos, and there is a muslim minority, who are entitled to some measure of minority rights, and various other unassimilated migrants who are entitled to nothing further than their rights as citizens.
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Re: Touble on the home front for the "prime minister&qu

Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:03 am

james_mav wrote:The tourkomogolo "prime minister" didn't get the reception he expected during his visit to tourkomogolistan:

Eroğlu receives cold welcome
ANKARA - Prime Minister Derviş Eroğlu of northern Cyprus, who is currently paying a formal visit to Turkey, met with Turkish officials in Ankara on Friday.

Eroğlu met with Turkish State Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Çiçek at the Prime Ministry headquarters. The Turkish Cypriot prime minister later held talks with Turkish State Minister and Deputy Premier Bülent Arınç.

Speaking during the meeting, Arınç said Turkey respected the political choice of Turkish Cypriot citizens, adding that he hoped the new government in northern Cyprus would take steps that would yield stable and successful results. "Turkey has always extended support to [northern Cyprus] for the resolution of the current problems in the country. We will continue to do so," Arınç said.

The trip to Turkey was Eroğlu’s first official visit abroad after being elected prime minister of northern Cyprus. An official ceremony was arranged at the office of the Turkish prime minister, but observers noted that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gave Eroğlu a chilly welcome. Even though the two prime ministers were supposed to walk side-by-side after shaking hands, Erdoğan paced Eroğlu, and then walked in front of him. After the meeting, Eroğlu said the government was aware of the fact that northern Cyprus is not a self-sufficient country.


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11855683.asp?scr=1


So that was his take-home message. The fact they are a burden to Turkey. :lol:

Turkey will have to face the fact her little experiment in strategic geopolitical expansion to force her way into Europe has failed. She may have more success by not denying her roots, and head East for her associations.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:43 am

james_mav wrote:
miltiades wrote:Have noted your warn support of the Turkish position as regards the existence of two nations in Cyprus , the Hellenic South and the Turkish North.
The RoC of course , and rightly so , challenges this Turkish held view and has the wide support of the Cypriot people who want unification creating one nation , one international voice and above all retaining the Cypriot identity.

We have been over this before, there is only one nation in Cyprus - the Hellenic Republic of Cyprus, which contains a significant muslim minority. A situation very similar to that in the Hellenic Republic, except that the muslims in Cyprus make up a larger minority than there co-religionists do in the Hellenic Republic.

Fanciful ideas of a bizonal, bicommuninal federation are just that - fanciful. Pursuing these ideas will merely set back the resolution of the Cyprus problem another decade or two. We're going to get to were we're going; the longer it takes to get there, the longer the muslim minority of Cyprus will have to wait before they enjoy the benefits of being members of an EU member state. And of course for the τουρκομόγκολο patrons of Cyprus' muslim minority, the deeper their isolation within Europe.

The "Cypriot" identity is also ground we have covered. We concluded that there was no such thing; in Cyprus there is the Greek ethnos, and there is a muslim minority, who are entitled to some measure of minority rights, and various other unassimilated migrants who are entitled to nothing further than their rights as citizens.

"WE HAVE CONCLUDED THERE IS NO CYPRIOT IDENTITY """
Who precisely arrived at this conclusion , was it your self along with EOKA B of 1974 encouraged and incited by the Greek Junta to bring about the biggest catastrophe that the nation of Cyprus ever suffered ?

Apart from you and your past heroes can you enlighten me as to the Internationally recognized status of Cyprus , is it as you say Hellenic Cyprus , or Hellenic Cypriot Ethnos that is a member of all International organizations , a member of the EU ?? Can you also tell me if your views are shared by the government of the RoC ?
Perhaps you can also touch on the subject of the removal of the Turkish troops from Cyprus and the reaction of the TURKISH CYPRIOTS NOT THE MUSLIM MINORITY as you flippantly say.
The people of Cyprus have had a bellyful of the destructiveness that irresponsible so called nationalists have inflicted on Cyprus.
This island , as well as the occupied Northern part , is the property of the Cypriot people not a chunk of Greece or Turkey and they must know that your views and the views of those that agreed with you that "a good Turk is a dead Turk " are despicable , destructive irresponsible and exceedingly dangerous to the prospects of a peaceful and just resolution .
Your sell by date was July 1974 , time to discard your out of date malicious crap.
Here is classic piece of nonsense by a corrupt and highly dangerous " ideologist" Referring to the T/Cs who he says are entitled to...some ..minority rights , not all minority rights mind you but some !!!

"" muslim minority, who are entitled to some measure of minority rights "

Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors .



ps. We will not cower and run this time , the Greek and Turkish fascists will be shown the door and kicked out of Cyprus by the EU ..

LONG LIVE THE CYPRUS ETHNOS AND MAY LONG CYPRUS CONTINUE TO THRIVE AS AN INDEPENDED NATION .
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Postby james_mav » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:01 am

miltiades wrote:Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:18 am

james_mav wrote: - the Hellenic Republic of Cyprus,


The "Cypriot" identity is also ground we have covered. We concluded that there was no such thing; in Cyprus there is the Greek ethnos, and there is a muslim minority,

All based on your mythological intellect, but is there a demand for a free tour of your Hellenic pea-brain that urges you to offer it?
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:23 pm

james_mav wrote:
miltiades wrote:Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.

I have never submitted to aggression by a foreign power occupying a part of MY country. I have empathised with my fellow compatriots the T/Cs and have expressed my concern at their plight way back in the early 60s when extremists from both communities sharing your views caused so much suffering.

You are no different from the Eric Dayes and other T/C extremists , one of a kind ,
Your disgraceful anti Cyprus position is nothing short of treason.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:37 pm

miltiades wrote:
james_mav wrote:
miltiades wrote:Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.

I have never submitted to aggression by a foreign power occupying a part of MY country. I have empathised with my fellow compatriots the T/Cs and have expressed my concern at their plight way back in the early 60s when extremists from both communities sharing your views caused so much suffering.

You are no different from the Eric Dayes and other T/C extremists , one of a kind ,
Your disgraceful anti Cyprus position is nothing short of treason.


... says the "man" who swears at the Cypriot National Anthem!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:48 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
james_mav wrote:
miltiades wrote:Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.

I have never submitted to aggression by a foreign power occupying a part of MY country. I have empathised with my fellow compatriots the T/Cs and have expressed my concern at their plight way back in the early 60s when extremists from both communities sharing your views caused so much suffering.

You are no different from the Eric Dayes and other T/C extremists , one of a kind ,
Your disgraceful anti Cyprus position is nothing short of treason.


... says the "man" who swears at the Cypriot National Anthem!

It seems to me that for a scientist you have a deficiency in logic.
Let me try once again.
We the Cypriots support the efforts and the position of our RoC government who is committed to one united Cyprus with one nation identity and total independence from either Greece or Turkey.
Does the minute amount of logic that you posses allow you to understand that the national anthem of Greece is utterly inappropriate and not in line with our stated position which is recognized the world over as the RoC AN INDEPENDENT NATION.
Concurring with the Turkish position that there are two people in Cyprus and two states is not exactly conducive to the efforts of the Cypriot people to reunite their island and live in peace with the other communities .
Thank God our RoC foreign diplomats do not share your views !
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