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[miltiades]

Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.

I have never submitted to aggression by a foreign power occupying a part of MY country. I have empathised with my fellow compatriots the T/Cs and have expressed my concern at their plight way back in the early 60s when extremists from both communities sharing your views caused so much suffering.

You are no different from the Eric Dayes and other T/C extremists , one of a kind ,
Your disgraceful anti Cyprus position is nothing short of treason.

... says the "man" who swears at the Cypriot National Anthem!

It seems to me that for a scientist you have a deficiency in logic.
Let me try once again.
We the Cypriots support the efforts and the position of our RoC government who is committed to one united Cyprus with one nation identity and total independence from either Greece or Turkey.
Does the minute amount of logic that you posses allow you to understand that the national anthem of Greece is utterly inappropriate and not in line with our stated position which is recognized the world over as the RoC AN INDEPENDENT NATION.
Concurring with the Turkish position that there are two people in Cyprus and two states is not exactly conducive to the efforts of the Cypriot people to reunite their island and live in peace with the other communities .
Thank God our RoC foreign diplomats do not share your views !

Regardless of whether a new national anthem makes sense or not, these ROC foreign diplomats will stand to attention every time the national anthem is played in honour of Cyprus. The very same anthem that President Christofias stands to attention to, the very same anthem Afxentiou was probably singing in his head before they firebombed him...the very same anthem you have a responsibility to show respect to while it is the national anthem of your country.

Are you therefore saying that the Greek national anthem IS the appropriate one to have and if so would we expect the T/Cs to stand to attention too . After all we are OFFICIALY an independent nation , we are not a part of Greece .
As for your comments on Afxentiou honouring the Greek anthem , indeed he did and so did I but times have now changed , back then we did not have our own government , currency , passports and IDs neither were we members on our own merit of any international organizations .
Look guys , the fact that I believe Cyprus ought to have ITS own identity in every single aspect does not convey disrespect or respect to any nation it merely conveys the independent spirit that we ought to adopt and go forward .

[Viewpoint]

Miltiades welcome to the real GC perspective....

[james_mav]

It seems to me that for a scientist you have a deficiency in logic.
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Concurring with the Turkish position that there are two people in Cyprus and two states is not exactly conducive to the efforts of the Cypriot people to reunite their island and live in peace with the other communities .
Thank God our RoC foreign diplomats do not share your views !

You really ought to refrain from attempting to pick up logical errors you think someone with a scientific background has made, because you just end up embarrassing yourself, looking like a senile old fool who is unable to keep up with the converstion, or at the very least, employing very brittle rhetoric to make your point.

To people who understand logic, your logical blunder is called a false dichotomy. You contend that whoever denies the Cypriot identity and advocates a Hellenic identity also acknowledges a tourkomogolic identity in Cyprus, and hence supports the position of tourkomogolistan, and thus suports the partition of suprus into Greek and tourkomongolic constituent states, and is hence a traitor to Cyprus.

Of course like most things in your miserable life, this is wrong. There is not simply one opposite to denying Cypriotness. I can deny Cypriotness and also deny any right to a tourkomongolic entity in Cyprus. I advocate for a Hellenic Republic of Cyprus comprising the entire island of Cyprus, with the tourkomogols guaranteed some minority rights, and everyone else guaranteed the basic rights of citizenship.

Now that your false dichotomy has been exposed - or explained - depending on if you are devious, or stupid, respectively, please give your arthritic fingers a rest from arguing this point in future.

[james_mav]

Are you therefore saying that the Greek national anthem IS the appropriate one to have and if so would we expect the T/Cs to stand to attention too.

And what if he is? The muslim minority of Greece stand to attention to the Greek anthem, just as the Christian and Jewish minorities of tourkomogolia stand to attention to the tourkomogoloid anthem.

After all we are OFFICIALY an independent nation , we are not a part of Greece

Actually officially Cyprus is not independent. There are three countries which have the official right of intervention in Cyprus. This is precisely the opposite of what your senile old brain thinks. Are you that old, or that much of a bolshie that up is down and left is right?

[Oracle]

The Greek anthem was NOT part of the London/Zurich agreements ...

Nor was the exercise of the democratic will of the majority! ... Bad things can happen to good people! We're still trying to clean-up its deficiencies ...

BTW ... It's not "The Greek Anthem" which we play in Cyprus. It's The Cypriot Anthem ... it's language is Greek, as is the Official language of Cyprus.

(There's no Copyright ...)

[Byron]

Your views are a disgrace to Cyprus and our ancestors

It is in fact your acquiescence to the τουρκομόγκολοι that is the disgrace.

I have never submitted to aggression by a foreign power occupying a part of MY country. I have empathised with my fellow compatriots the T/Cs and have expressed my concern at their plight way back in the early 60s when extremists from both communities sharing your views caused so much suffering.

You are no different from the Eric Dayes and other T/C extremists , one of a kind ,
Your disgraceful anti Cyprus position is nothing short of treason.

... says the "man" who swears at the Cypriot National Anthem!

It seems to me that for a scientist you have a deficiency in logic.
Let me try once again.
We the Cypriots support the efforts and the position of our RoC government who is committed to one united Cyprus with one nation identity and total independence from either Greece or Turkey.
Does the minute amount of logic that you posses allow you to understand that the national anthem of Greece is utterly inappropriate and not in line with our stated position which is recognized the world over as the RoC AN INDEPENDENT NATION.
Concurring with the Turkish position that there are two people in Cyprus and two states is not exactly conducive to the efforts of the Cypriot people to reunite their island and live in peace with the other communities .
Thank God our RoC foreign diplomats do not share your views !

Miltiades Quote :

We the Cypriots support the efforts and the position of our RoC government who is committed to one united Cyprus with one nation identity and total independence from either Greece or Turkey.

How many belong to your Cypriot party, 1 , 2 , 3 or is it 4 ???

[Byron]

The Greek anthem was NOT part of the London/Zurich agreements and neither was it agreed upon by the people of Cyprus at a later date.

It was yet another attempt by the Greek junta and their treasonous Cypriot followers to reignite the divisive and destructive enosis ideals.

It’s an absolute disgrace that this horrible piece of “music” which began the destruction of Cyprus on the 15th July 1974 (RIK radio played this disgusting anthem over and over while our people were being slaughtered and overthrown), is still in use today 40 years on!

The Anthem will remain forever and ever. It will never be replaced as it represents the plight of all hellenes ( refer to Yialousa in another thread).

If you wish you can always sing the Turkish anthem or the "National"

[AWE]

When did to RoC choose the song? in 1960 or later? Because if you want the TCs to believe that you mean them no harm in a united Cyprus you need better PR people!

[Get Real!]

The Greek anthem was NOT part of the London/Zurich agreements and neither was it agreed upon by the people of Cyprus at a later date.

It was yet another attempt by the Greek junta and their treasonous Cypriot followers to reignite the divisive and destructive enosis ideals.

It’s an absolute disgrace that this horrible piece of “music” which began the destruction of Cyprus on the 15th July 1974 (RIK radio played this disgusting anthem over and over while our people were being slaughtered and overthrown), is still in use today 40 years on!

The Anthem will remain forever and ever. It will never be replaced as it represents the plight of all hellenes ( refer to Yialousa in another thread).

If you wish you can always sing the Turkish anthem or the "National"

The plight of all “Hellenes” should be the same as the plight of all Turks…

1. To pay for their crimes in Cyprus.
2. To respect Human rights in their country and elsewhere.
3. To abide by international law.