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[Get Real!]

It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

But why do you pretend to be a "foreign observer" when judging by your few posts you've got Greek nationalism oozing from you?

Who said I was a "foreign observer " , yes I am GREEK a GREEK Cypriot just like you ( per Oracle) !!!

Greek and stupid always go hand in hand... is your name Icarus?

[Byron]

You are entitled to your minority opinion. Perhaps we should also change the GREEK LANGUAGE to Turkish maybe?

The "Greek" language is a Cypriot invention the credit for which was stolen by Greeks.

If the language is a Cypriot invention and the language is commonly known as GREEK then Cypriots are GREEK !!

[Byron]

The Hymn to Liberty was written before Greece was born. It's for all Hellenic people and as it looks like Dionysios Solomos was half Cypriot it is truely for Cyprus. Now Turks and new turks can fuck off.

Spot on Yialousa, it has been our anthem since 1821 !!!!

It’s the same anthem that spurred on the EOKA B and Greek junta to kill democracy on Cyprus, attempt to take the life of the democratically elected president, kill the Cypriot people, and finally provide the perfect excuse for the Turkish invader to capture 37% of sovereign Cypriot territory.

Liberty at its very best!

As mentioned before, you are entitled to your minority opinion.

[Byron]

It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

But why do you pretend to be a "foreign observer" when judging by your few posts you've got Greek nationalism oozing from you?

Who said I was a "foreign observer " , yes I am GREEK a GREEK Cypriot just like you ( per Oracle) !!!

Greek and stupid always go hand in hand... is your name Icarus?

Please keep your verbal abuse to yourself !

[Byron]

Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.

Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

As with the anthem, I suggested something on the lines you mentioned, but there are those who do not want to afford the same to the Turkish Cypriot community. Are you one of those, that believe in Cyprus for the Greek speakers alone?

The majority of nations have ethnic minority communities so why should Cyprus be different. In fact the Cyprus constitution recognises in writing the existence of the Turkish Community and its own anthem.

[Icarus]

Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.

It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

If you are telling me that the TCs also need to identify with the Cypriot National Anthem, then Turkey can perhaps show us the way by signing a new BBF agreement with the Kurdish minority and changing their national anthem so that the Kurds can also identify with it.

And perhaps when Cyprus is finally re-united under The Republic of Cyprus banner, then the TC minority may be able to introduce their own anthem within their own Federated State.

Icarus, you talk nonsense and you should know it. Re-uniting Cyprus into a BBF does not mean that the two federative states will be nations on their own. Cyprus will not cease to exist as one single nation, with a single sovereignty and one international representation, in the same way that the US has one national anthem and not 52 instead. In that sense and regardless of whether you like it or not, once a solution is agreed a Cyprus national anthem will have to be established, because this is what logic dictates! Therefore, stop wasting your time and energy on unfeasible and futile ideas.

I am well aware as to the sensitivities of the Cyprus Problem.

As most should know, if there is to be a solution to the Cyprus Problem, then as things stand today, the United Cyprus will be a BBF with a strong centralised and unifying Federal Government (I hope) with the nation itself being an adaptation of the present Republic of Cyprus and not a virgin birth of a new nation that is being talked about in Turkey.

This entity, which will be an adaptation of the Republic of Cyprus, will have one international representation but at the same time, logic would dictate the necessity to allow the majority of Cypriots to maintain their important symbols and anthems. If you would think a little laterally and with some logic, you would understand that it is possible for a nation to establish within its constitution more than one official language (Cyprus has 2) and establish 2 anthems that are acceptable to all. Of course this would mean that both anthems would need to be played (no huge drama) in accordance with state protocol.

The issue is, are both communities going to be responsible enough to allow the citizens of both ethnic communities the free will to maintain their own identity. If this is not achieved, then it will result in many of the island's citizens being disgruntled.

[Byron]

The Cyprus problem is not the anthem , but the TURKISH army. The only solution is for them to leave immediately together with their Turkish settlers !!

Everything else is poetry - Attilio Lazzarin

[Kifeas]

Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.

It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

If you are telling me that the TCs also need to identify with the Cypriot National Anthem, then Turkey can perhaps show us the way by signing a new BBF agreement with the Kurdish minority and changing their national anthem so that the Kurds can also identify with it.

And perhaps when Cyprus is finally re-united under The Republic of Cyprus banner, then the TC minority may be able to introduce their own anthem within their own Federated State.

Icarus, you talk nonsense and you should know it. Re-uniting Cyprus into a BBF does not mean that the two federative states will be nations on their own. Cyprus will not cease to exist as one single nation, with a single sovereignty and one international representation, in the same way that the US has one national anthem and not 52 instead. In that sense and regardless of whether you like it or not, once a solution is agreed a Cyprus national anthem will have to be established, because this is what logic dictates! Therefore, stop wasting your time and energy on unfeasible and futile ideas.

I am well aware as to the sensitivities of the Cyprus Problem.

As most should know, if there is to be a solution to the Cyprus Problem, then as things stand today, the United Cyprus will be a BBF with a strong centralised and unifying Federal Government (I hope) with the nation itself being an adaptation of the present Republic of Cyprus and not a virgin birth of a new nation that is being talked about in Turkey.

This entity, which will be an adaptation of the Republic of Cyprus, will have one international representation but at the same time, logic would dictate the necessity to allow the majority of Cypriots to maintain their important symbols and anthems. If you would think a little laterally and with some logic, you would understand that it is possible for a nation to establish within its constitution more than one official language (Cyprus has 2) and establish 2 anthems that are acceptable to all. Of course this would mean that both anthems would need to be played (no huge drama) in accordance with state protocol.

The issue is, are both communities going to be responsible enough to allow the citizens of both ethnic communities the free will to maintain their own identity however should they desire. If this is not achieved, then it will result in many of the island's citizens being disgruntled.

So you are saying that when a Cypriot sports national team will be playing international games, two anthems will be heard for Cyprus, instead of one which is the case with every other single nation in the world, and the same holds when a foreign political figurehead is visiting Cyprus on an official visit, or vice versa. Get serious man!!!

[denizaksulu]

Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.

Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

As with the anthem, I suggested something on the lines you mentioned, but there are those who do not want to afford the same to the Turkish Cypriot community. Are you one of those, that believe in Cyprus for the Greek speakers alone?

The majority of nations have ethnic minority communities so why should Cyprus be different. In fact the Cyprus constitution recognises in writing the existence of the Turkish Community and its own anthem.

Many believe the old constitution to be dead and buried. We are talking of a New Cyprus, hopefully without any external interference, where all Cyps will live in peace 'sort of' together.

[Icarus]

It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

If you are telling me that the TCs also need to identify with the Cypriot National Anthem, then Turkey can perhaps show us the way by signing a new BBF agreement with the Kurdish minority and changing their national anthem so that the Kurds can also identify with it.

And perhaps when Cyprus is finally re-united under The Republic of Cyprus banner, then the TC minority may be able to introduce their own anthem within their own Federated State.

So you are saying that when a Cypriot sports national team will be playing international games, two anthems will be heard for Cyprus, instead of one which is the case with every other single nation in the world, and the same holds when a foreign political figurehead is visiting Cyprus on an official visit, or vice versa. Get serious man!!!

That is a possibilty. Or the current National Anthem can be combined and blended with another. I assume it would need to be cut down to the mandatory 45 seconds, but am unsure if that's the case.