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Behold! ... The Cypriot National Anthem!

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Postby Icarus » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:14 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

If you are telling me that the TCs also need to identify with the Cypriot National Anthem, then Turkey can perhaps show us the way by signing a new BBF agreement with the Kurdish minority and changing their national anthem so that the Kurds can also identify with it.

And perhaps when Cyprus is finally re-united under The Republic of Cyprus banner, then the TC minority may be able to introduce their own anthem within their own Federated State.
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:16 am

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denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.


You are entitled to your minority opinion. Perhaps we should also change the GREEK LANGUAGE to Turkish maybe?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:19 am

Icarus wrote:It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

But why do you pretend to be a "foreign observer" when judging by your few posts you've got Greek nationalism oozing from you?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:20 am

Byron wrote:You are entitled to your minority opinion. Perhaps we should also change the GREEK LANGUAGE to Turkish maybe?

The "Greek" language is a Cypriot invention the credit for which was stolen by Greeks.
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Postby Icarus » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:22 am

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Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.

Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

It is also "strikingly evident" as to the cultural similarities between the UK and Cyprus , Europe and Cyprus too. Yes I agree we speak the same language just as the Australians and the Brits , or Canadians , Americans , New Zealanders and many more do . Our food is similar but it is also similar to many other nation's food in the Middle East. So is our music , but the above mentioned nations who all share the same music in English are independent of each other.
Why do you think Cyprus , an independent nation after all , should have as its national anthem one from a foreign country. Greece isn't Cyprus , and Cyprus isn't Greece. Logic tell us that in order to be independent we need to promote our uniqueness as an independent nation. Why is our official flag not the Greek flag ?
In my mind the continuation of this foreign to Cyprus anthem is damaging and totaly unproductive to the process of reunification of our island.
It also seems to me that many still consider the T/Cs as "foreigners" and not entitled to be in Cyprus.


It is not the anthem of a foreign nation.

It is the Cypriot National Anthem, written by a half Cypriot and it is this very anthem that was sung by 17 heroic heroes of the Self Determination campaign, as they walked their final steps to the gallows.
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:22 am

yialousa1971 wrote:The Hymn to Liberty was written before Greece was born. It's for all Hellenic people and as it looks like Dionysios Solomos was half Cypriot it is truely for Cyprus. Now Turks and new turks can fuck off.


Spot on Yialousa, it has been our anthem since 1821 !!!!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:28 am

Byron wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:The Hymn to Liberty was written before Greece was born. It's for all Hellenic people and as it looks like Dionysios Solomos was half Cypriot it is truely for Cyprus. Now Turks and new turks can fuck off.

Spot on Yialousa, it has been our anthem since 1821 !!!!

It’s the same anthem that spurred on the EOKA B and Greek junta to kill democracy on Cyprus, attempt to take the life of the democratically elected president, kill the Cypriot people, and finally provide the perfect excuse for the Turkish invader to capture 37% of sovereign Cypriot territory.

Liberty at its very best!
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:29 am

Get Real! wrote:
Icarus wrote:It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

But why do you pretend to be a "foreign observer" when judging by your few posts you've got Greek nationalism oozing from you?


Who said I was a "foreign observer " , yes I am GREEK a GREEK Cypriot just like you ( per Oracle) !!!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:30 am

Byron wrote:
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Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.



As with the anthem, I suggested something on the lines you mentioned, but there are those who do not want to afford the same to the Turkish Cypriot community. Are you one of those, that believe in Cyprus for the Greek speakers alone?
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:30 am

Icarus wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


It is evident that the majority of Cypriots are partial to the current national anthem. And since this is the case, there is absolutely no need for it to change. The anthem itself was also writeen by a Cypriot so the Hymn to Liberty is as much Cypriot as it is Greek.

If you are telling me that the TCs also need to identify with the Cypriot National Anthem, then Turkey can perhaps show us the way by signing a new BBF agreement with the Kurdish minority and changing their national anthem so that the Kurds can also identify with it.

And perhaps when Cyprus is finally re-united under The Republic of Cyprus banner, then the TC minority may be able to introduce their own anthem within their own Federated State.


Icarus, you talk nonsense and you should know it. Re-uniting Cyprus into a BBF does not mean that the two federative states will be nations on their own. Cyprus will not cease to exist as one single nation, with a single sovereignty and one international representation, in the same way that the US has one national anthem and not 52 instead. In that sense and regardless of whether you like it or not, once a solution is agreed a Cyprus national anthem will have to be established, because this is what logic dictates! Therefore, stop wasting your time and energy on unfeasible and futile ideas.
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