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Behold! ... The Cypriot National Anthem!

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Postby Oracle » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:03 am

Gabira wrote: I must say that I was waiting for Daffy Duck to poke his head through the 'flag' at the end of the Warner Bros melody.

Abidee Abidee That's All Folks.


That's because you've been conditioned by listening to too many Turkish foot-stomping, genocide-inspiring toneless toones! It's your coping mechanism ... :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:53 am

What a bunch of hypocrites those supporting the continuation of the GREEK national anthem in Cyprus.
On one hand we shout it to the world that Cyprus is independent , member of this and that now in the EU , we invite the T/Cs to join us and then we tell them to stand to attention when a foreign anthem is played . I would not stand to attention let alone the T/Cs.
Are we independent or are we a part of a foreign nation ? We demand the withdrawal of all troops from Cyprus , those that remain will be those whose role is not that of an occupying army.
We demand that our nation rids it self from the chains of slavery , we are Greek CYPRIOTS , Turkish CYPRIOTS , Armenian and Maronite CYPRIOTS , British and other CYPRIOTS , WHAT WE ARE NOT IS GREEKS AND TURKS .
We have a right to embrace our true identities as provided by the RoC , such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.
The mentality that led to Cyprus's biggest ever catastrophe was one afflicted by the decease of pseudo nationalism
which directly invited the occupier of a third of our island to be here in the first place.
When will they realise that our nation is CYPRUS why give a toss about a foreign country that we were NEVER a part of in our long history. I have been misquoted so many times I now just ignore it but on this occasion once again I REITERATE. I'm , just as my forefathers were a Greek Cypriot , not a Greek. As a Cypriot I consider the Turkish Cypriots to be my compatriots and my Cypriot equals in everty aspect.
I have never accepted the occupation and the excuses given by the occupyier as to the reasons their armies are still on Cyprus soil. I have argued hard on issues dividing our island and promoting partition leading to a certain annexation of the occupied part by Turkey.
I have steadfastly supported the position that our RoC government has incessantly promoted , that Cyprus is an independent nation and at the same time I ridicule the hypocritical and utterly illogical situation whereby we preach one thing but do another , a perfect example the continuation of the GREEK national anthem. Greek IT IS , not as our resident mad scientist suggests that the anthem is Cypriot.
The way forward is unification with one nation one identity one flag and one anthem of our own.
What is wrong with my position that attracts so much venom from the fascists that appear to concentrate on this forum.
Not one single word that I wrote was damaging to Cyprus or to the prospects of a peaceful resolution .
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Postby Icarus » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:10 am

Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.

Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:35 am

Oracle wrote:Nope ... you don't seem to understand that the days of two languages, two communities, two types of "democracies", are over.

Cyprus is in the EU now; and you TCs are not!

You are with Turkey.

When Turkey is kicked out, and some of you may wish to return to the warm embrace of the RoC, you will find that you have to accept these things (one language [Greek], one flag [Cypriot], one anthem[Greek language Cypriot National Anthem], one democracy [Hellenic/Universal]) without any further hustle!

It's for the best! :D



OK. You win.

We shall have an EU anthem. Fairs fair. :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:42 am

Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:44 am

Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.

Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

It is also "strikingly evident" as to the cultural similarities between the UK and Cyprus , Europe and Cyprus too. Yes I agree we speak the same language just as the Australians and the Brits , or Canadians , Americans , New Zealanders and many more do . Our food is similar but it is also similar to many other nation's food in the Middle East. So is our music , but the above mentioned nations who all share the same music in English are independent of each other.
Why do you think Cyprus , an independent nation after all , should have as its national anthem one from a foreign country. Greece isn't Cyprus , and Cyprus isn't Greece. Logic tell us that in order to be independent we need to promote our uniqueness as an independent nation. Why is our official flag not the Greek flag ?
In my mind the continuation of this foreign to Cyprus anthem is damaging and totaly unproductive to the process of reunification of our island.
It also seems to me that many still consider the T/Cs as "foreigners" and not entitled to be in Cyprus.
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:05 am

miltiades wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.

Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.

It is also "strikingly evident" as to the cultural similarities between the UK and Cyprus , Europe and Cyprus too. Yes I agree we speak the same language just as the Australians and the Brits , or Canadians , Americans , New Zealanders and many more do . Our food is similar but it is also similar to many other nation's food in the Middle East. So is our music , but the above mentioned nations who all share the same music in English are independent of each other.
Why do you think Cyprus , an independent nation after all , should have as its national anthem one from a foreign country. Greece isn't Cyprus , and Cyprus isn't Greece. Logic tell us that in order to be independent we need to promote our uniqueness as an independent nation. Why is our official flag not the Greek flag ?
In my mind the continuation of this foreign to Cyprus anthem is damaging and totaly unproductive to the process of reunification of our island.
It also seems to me that many still consider the T/Cs as "foreigners" and not entitled to be in Cyprus.


Cyprus as you well know is made up of two principal communities, Greek and Turk; the national anthem for the GREEK community is the Hymn to Liberty whilst the TURKS use their own anthem. The day you can convince all GREEK & TURKISH Cypriots to unite together, to respect each other and convince one another that all Cypriots are one nation one culture, then may be that will be the time to find a common anthem. However the last 35 years has clearly shown the divide is still there and the status quo will remain for many more years. Within the EU no-one is interested in the Cyprus problem; at the recent European Elections, Cyprus did not get a mention on either Italian, French or Spanish TV. Perhaps there was full coverage in your part of the world for those 6 votes out of 700 + ?
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:08 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:13 am

Byron wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.
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Postby Byron » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:14 am

miltiades wrote:What a bunch of hypocrites those supporting the continuation of the GREEK national anthem in Cyprus.
On one hand we shout it to the world that Cyprus is independent , member of this and that now in the EU , we invite the T/Cs to join us and then we tell them to stand to attention when a foreign anthem is played . I would not stand to attention let alone the T/Cs.
Are we independent or are we a part of a foreign nation ? We demand the withdrawal of all troops from Cyprus , those that remain will be those whose role is not that of an occupying army.
We demand that our nation rids it self from the chains of slavery , we are Greek CYPRIOTS , Turkish CYPRIOTS , Armenian and Maronite CYPRIOTS , British and other CYPRIOTS , WHAT WE ARE NOT IS GREEKS AND TURKS .
We have a right to embrace our true identities as provided by the RoC , such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.
The mentality that led to Cyprus's biggest ever catastrophe was one afflicted by the decease of pseudo nationalism
which directly invited the occupier of a third of our island to be here in the first place.
When will they realise that our nation is CYPRUS why give a toss about a foreign country that we were NEVER a part of in our long history. I have been misquoted so many times I now just ignore it but on this occasion once again I REITERATE. I'm , just as my forefathers were a Greek Cypriot , not a Greek. As a Cypriot I consider the Turkish Cypriots to be my compatriots and my Cypriot equals in everty aspect.
I have never accepted the occupation and the excuses given by the occupyier as to the reasons their armies are still on Cyprus soil. I have argued hard on issues dividing our island and promoting partition leading to a certain annexation of the occupied part by Turkey.
I have steadfastly supported the position that our RoC government has incessantly promoted , that Cyprus is an independent nation and at the same time I ridicule the hypocritical and utterly illogical situation whereby we preach one thing but do another , a perfect example the continuation of the GREEK national anthem. Greek IT IS , not as our resident mad scientist suggests that the anthem is Cypriot.
The way forward is unification with one nation one identity one flag and one anthem of our own.
What is wrong with my position that attracts so much venom from the fascists that appear to concentrate on this forum.
Not one single word that I wrote was damaging to Cyprus or to the prospects of a peaceful resolution .


Who are the Fascits on this forum, do you know what Fascism means ? Mussolini has been dead since 1945 ? If you are so interested in changing the cypriot national anthem perhaps the Cypriot people should be called to a referendum to decide and maybe you will be surpised with the result !
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