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Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Byron wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.


Your beginning to sound like Miltiades and he's even started to agree with you. Have you formed an alliance with that old fool. :evil: It's about time I stopped you hanging out with him, every time he comes over you seem to become even more stupid. :shock: Your grounded boy! :lol:

:shock: Mommy… is that you? :?


Your feel the back of my hand if you don't shut up. :lol: Now get to bed it's well past your bed time, your on that computer 24 hours a day. :shock:
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:36 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Byron wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.


Your beginning to sound like Miltiades and he's even started to agree with you. Have you formed an alliance with that old fool. :evil: It's about time I stopped you hanging out with him, every time he comes over you seem to become even more stupid. :shock: Your grounded boy! :lol:

:shock: Mommy… is that you? :?

No more milk for you dear boy, you've been found out. :lol: :lol:

Here's hoping she's got big tits... 8)

Now you ruined it, you'll never find out. Just think they could be couple of fried eggs. What have you lost?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:36 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Byron wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.


Your beginning to sound like Miltiades and he's even started to agree with you. Have you formed an alliance with that old fool. :evil: It's about time I stopped you hanging out with him, every time he comes over you seem to become even more stupid. :shock: Your grounded boy! :lol:

:shock: Mommy… is that you? :?


Your feel the back of my hand if you don't shut up. :lol: Now get to bed it's well past your bed time, your on that computer 24 hours a day. :shock:

No I’m not… that’s Oracle you’re confusing me with! :?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:38 am

YFred wrote:Now you ruined it, you'll never find out. Just think they could be couple of fried eggs. What have you lost?

Eggs and bacon methinks… :? :cry:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:39 am

Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Byron wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Having been to both Greece and Cyprus many times, it is strikingly evident as to the cultural similarities between the 2 nations.Quite clearly, most Cypriots are in favour of maintaining their national anthem, and their democratic free will should be respected. Just because Cyprus is being held at ransom by a foreign occupier does not mean there is justification in abandoning the national anthem.



So are the nations in south America with Spain or Portugal. They still have their own flags.


Regarding the flag of the Cyprus it represents the Cyprus Republic politically. The Greek flag however represents the GREEK COMMUNITY in CYPRUS and the CHURCH.

It's all these "clever" representations that fucked up this country.

The sooner people realize that Greece & Turkey are the Cyprus problem the sooner the problem will be removed via a unanimous rejection of both these cockroaches.


Your beginning to sound like Miltiades and he's even started to agree with you. Have you formed an alliance with that old fool. :evil: It's about time I stopped you hanging out with him, every time he comes over you seem to become even more stupid. :shock: Your grounded boy! :lol:

:shock: Mommy… is that you? :?


Your feel the back of my hand if you don't shut up. :lol: Now get to bed it's well past your bed time, your on that computer 24 hours a day. :shock:

No I’m not… that’s Oracle you’re confusing me with! :?


How can anyone confuse you with me? ... these days! :roll:

... Anyway, I've only just sat down .....[but looks like I've already seen-off some invading dunce "northerner" :lol: ]
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Postby Icarus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:37 am

miltiades wrote:
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AWE wrote:Deniz,

don't you mean Pegasus? Icarus flew too close to the Sun.


That as well.

Icarus talks of flying pigs :roll: The flying horse, ha ha haa. He has a cheek talking on what I believe in. Obviously you believe in Mythology,also two headed eagles. I dont believ in SF.


I made no insinuations about you. Just trying to lighten up the mood after a good political chat with Kifeas and Awe. :)

My flying pig remarks were more to do with some very strange and peculiar posts I had the misfortune of reading from such like as View point, Miltiades and another guy that keeps talking to me about the damn French! :?

May I kindly request that you tell us which part of my post was "very strange and peculiar " . Do tell us please also why Miltiades's posts have cause you concern. Would it be perhaps the fact that I put two fingers up to Greece , just as I do to Turkey and the fact that it is an irrefutable fact that people sharing your deranged views were responsible for the current mess that we are in. Take it from me son , in capitals so that it sinks in
CYPRUS IS AN INDEPENDENT NATION ACCORDING TO ALL INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS , IT IS NOT AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN A PART OF THE TWO THIRD WORL NATIONS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOUSAND OF DEATHS.
LONG LIVE THE CYPRIOT FREE SPIRIT , KALAMARADES AND TURKS FROM MJAINLAND TAKE A RUN AND JUMP !


Another peculiar and strange post.. :roll: I'm starting to see those flying pigs again... :lol:

If you want to stick 2 fingers up to Greece, then this is your prerogative, but fortunately, most sensible Greek Cypriots will not ever consider doing such a thing to a vital ally.

I suggest you grow up! :?
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Postby Icarus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:48 am

Get Real! wrote:
AWE wrote:Deniz,

don't you mean Pegasus? Icarus flew too close to the Sun.

This one's flying too close to the Greek flag... :lol:


The only flag I fly too close to is the Republic of Cyprus flag.

However, being a true democrat, and always wanting to achieve popular democratic process and consensus for my country, means that I'm a little prone to flying a bit high and too close to the sun. You sound like my father, Daedalus... :evil:

Is due democratic process out of reach for Cyprus as well? Are we aiming too high? I think not, because for one thing we need to learn the fact that the Cypriot people can not be denied their rights, as has been done in the past with the Zurich Agreement granting us an unworkable nation.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:20 am

miltiades wrote:What a bunch of hypocrites those supporting the continuation of the GREEK national anthem in Cyprus.
On one hand we shout it to the world that Cyprus is independent , member of this and that now in the EU , we invite the T/Cs to join us and then we tell them to stand to attention when a foreign anthem is played . I would not stand to attention let alone the T/Cs.
Are we independent or are we a part of a foreign nation ? We demand the withdrawal of all troops from Cyprus , those that remain will be those whose role is not that of an occupying army.
We demand that our nation rids it self from the chains of slavery , we are Greek CYPRIOTS , Turkish CYPRIOTS , Armenian and Maronite CYPRIOTS , British and other CYPRIOTS , WHAT WE ARE NOT IS GREEKS AND TURKS .
We have a right to embrace our true identities as provided by the RoC , such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.
The mentality that led to Cyprus's biggest ever catastrophe was one afflicted by the decease of pseudo nationalism
which directly invited the occupier of a third of our island to be here in the first place.
When will they realise that our nation is CYPRUS why give a toss about a foreign country that we were NEVER a part of in our long history. I have been misquoted so many times I now just ignore it but on this occasion once again I REITERATE. I'm , just as my forefathers were a Greek Cypriot , not a Greek. As a Cypriot I consider the Turkish Cypriots to be my compatriots and my Cypriot equals in everty aspect.
I have never accepted the occupation and the excuses given by the occupyier as to the reasons their armies are still on Cyprus soil. I have argued hard on issues dividing our island and promoting partition leading to a certain annexation of the occupied part by Turkey.
I have steadfastly supported the position that our RoC government has incessantly promoted , that Cyprus is an independent nation and at the same time I ridicule the hypocritical and utterly illogical situation whereby we preach one thing but do another , a perfect example the continuation of the GREEK national anthem. Greek IT IS , not as our resident mad scientist suggests that the anthem is Cypriot.
The way forward is unification with one nation one identity one flag and one anthem of our own.
What is wrong with my position that attracts so much venom from the fascists that appear to concentrate on this forum.
Not one single word that I wrote was damaging to Cyprus or to the prospects of a peaceful resolution .


such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.


Milt our entire constitution is built on differentiating who's a TC and who's a GC. :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:01 am

DT. wrote:
miltiades wrote:What a bunch of hypocrites those supporting the continuation of the GREEK national anthem in Cyprus.
On one hand we shout it to the world that Cyprus is independent , member of this and that now in the EU , we invite the T/Cs to join us and then we tell them to stand to attention when a foreign anthem is played . I would not stand to attention let alone the T/Cs.
Are we independent or are we a part of a foreign nation ? We demand the withdrawal of all troops from Cyprus , those that remain will be those whose role is not that of an occupying army.
We demand that our nation rids it self from the chains of slavery , we are Greek CYPRIOTS , Turkish CYPRIOTS , Armenian and Maronite CYPRIOTS , British and other CYPRIOTS , WHAT WE ARE NOT IS GREEKS AND TURKS .
We have a right to embrace our true identities as provided by the RoC , such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.
The mentality that led to Cyprus's biggest ever catastrophe was one afflicted by the decease of pseudo nationalism
which directly invited the occupier of a third of our island to be here in the first place.
When will they realise that our nation is CYPRUS why give a toss about a foreign country that we were NEVER a part of in our long history. I have been misquoted so many times I now just ignore it but on this occasion once again I REITERATE. I'm , just as my forefathers were a Greek Cypriot , not a Greek. As a Cypriot I consider the Turkish Cypriots to be my compatriots and my Cypriot equals in everty aspect.
I have never accepted the occupation and the excuses given by the occupyier as to the reasons their armies are still on Cyprus soil. I have argued hard on issues dividing our island and promoting partition leading to a certain annexation of the occupied part by Turkey.
I have steadfastly supported the position that our RoC government has incessantly promoted , that Cyprus is an independent nation and at the same time I ridicule the hypocritical and utterly illogical situation whereby we preach one thing but do another , a perfect example the continuation of the GREEK national anthem. Greek IT IS , not as our resident mad scientist suggests that the anthem is Cypriot.
The way forward is unification with one nation one identity one flag and one anthem of our own.
What is wrong with my position that attracts so much venom from the fascists that appear to concentrate on this forum.
Not one single word that I wrote was damaging to Cyprus or to the prospects of a peaceful resolution .


such documents as passports and IDS do not class us as Turks or Greeks but clearly state CYPRIOT.


Milt our entire constitution is built on differentiating who's a TC and who's a GC. :roll:

DT , Do try to understand what I'm saying.
I'm a realist and have always referred to us as the G/Cs and the T/Cs . I dont call T/Cs Turkish speaking , Cypriot Muslim or anything else from what they are .
The crux of the matter is that a large number of both G/Cs and T/Cs are denying themselves their birthright to be , above all else , a Cypriot.
To the best of my knowledge this "denial" in embracing our country of birth is unique to Cyprus. There is not one single independent nation on earth where its people consider foreign countries as their motherlands.
Yes , both Greece and Turkey , if we were to accept our independent status in the world , are foreign countries by definition .
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Postby james_mav » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:22 am

miltiades wrote:if we were to accept our independent status in the world , [Greece and Turkey] are foreign countries by definition .

What independent status in the world? Have you forgotten the Treaty of Guarantee? This treaty (despite its language) explicitly denies the independence of Cyprus.
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