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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:29 pm

Sotos wrote:
Sotos, where is Israel, where is China, where are so many other countries that are well known Human Rights abusers???


That is right GR! The list was just from the European Court of Human Rights but if you take the whole world there are several other countries which are almost as bad as Turkey. That makes Greece record comparatively very good doesn't it? The only thing you show is that Greece is not perfect. So what? Who ever said that Greece was perfect? :roll:

My laughable attempt to justify Greece’s atrocious human rights record by attempting to divert attention elsewhere in the most amateur manner!

How can Greece's human rights record be atrocious when is many times better than the one in Turkey and many other countries? :roll:

Now get out of my sight you incompetent idiot!


You are incompetent because you present facts that only show that Greece is not perfect and you claim that your facts show that Greece is the worst or among the worst. But the facts don't show this. To show who is the worst you have to compare with others. And when you compare Greece with others Greece is among the best. Turkey is among the worst.


Sotos,

It is now official, you are the idiot of the CY forum :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Sotos » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:16 pm

Turks and Turkophiles defeated... again. :D I proved my point and they can not counter it.

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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:08 pm

Sorry Sotos, I know you want the thread closed ... but this made me laugh sooo much ....


Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Sotos, where is Israel, where is China, where are so many other countries that are well known Human Rights abusers???


That is right GR! The list was just from the European Court of Human Rights ...


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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:28 pm

Sotos wrote:Turks and Turkophiles defeated... again. :D I proved my point and they can not counter it.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: The only point you proved is that, as GR said, you are an "incompetent idiot" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:30 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Sotos wrote:Turks and Turkophiles defeated... again. :D I proved my point and they can not counter it.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: The only point you proved is that, as GR said, you are an "incompetent idiot" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You know, in some political circles these days, coming from GR!, that counts as a compliment! :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:“My laughable attempt to justify Greece’s atrocious human rights record by attempting to divert attention elsewhere in the most amateur manner!”


GR, every country reserves the right to protect its values, and most will come under critism from pressure groups like Amnesty etc.

Generally speaking, muslim/communist countries are far worse at this than Christian/liberal democracies.

It's quite interesting that muslims more often than not migrate to Christian countries/liberal democracies, than other muslim countries, probably due to their appauling human rights record, where as it is quite rare the other way round.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:20 pm

This was on CNN news last night, Thursday June 11th, 2009

Woman still threatened by husband despite European court's landmark ruling

Although the verdict in a landmark case recently handed down by the European Court of Human Rights demanded that Turkey provide better protection from domestic abuse, the victim's daughter continues to be threatened by her husband, H.O., who was released from prison pending appeal although he was found guilty of murdering his mother-in-law in 2008 and sentenced to life in prison.

Applying to the European court in 2002, Turkish national Nahide Opuz alleged that Turkish authorities had failed to protect the life of her mother, killed by Opuz's husband. The European court issued a historic ruling on Tuesday, fining Turkey 36,500 euros for failing to protect its citizens from domestic violence.

Opuz's lawyer, Arzu Başer, has said her client is delighted at the ruling. However, the result cannot make up for Opuz's mother being killed or Opuz being exposed to countless acts of violence.

“Opuz is still threatened by her husband. I hope that after this decision Opuz is given police protection. Only in October of last year did Opuz apply to the prosecution again, filing a complaint against her former husband for threatening her. Opuz has children, but out of fear that her former husband may harm them, they do not live with her. She was given police protection before, but only for one week. We want her to receive protection for as long as her husband remains a threat to her."

Başer said she hopes H.O. will receive a life sentence in a retrial, when the case returns from the Supreme Court of Appeals. "Only then can Nahide Opuz stop being afraid," she said. Meanwhile, Turkish women's organizations welcomed the ruling by the European court. "It's a landmark decision that does not apply only to Turkey," said Pınar İlkkaracan, the founder of Women for Women's Human Rights (WWHR), an İstanbul-based organization promoting rights for women.

She called on the Turkish administration to provide better protection to women, including training for police and judges dealing with cases of domestic abuse. Additionally, she said police need detailed policies for dealing with domestic abuse.

11 June 2009, Thursday


TODAY'S ZAMAN WITH WIRES İSTANBUL

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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:19 am

Sotos wrote:Turks and Turkophiles defeated... again. :D I proved my point and they can not counter it.

The probability that you can pull off a decent Human Rights thread is equivalent to that of a sparrow catching an eagle mid-air for lunch!

The only thing you managed to prove here is your immaturity and stupidity by attempting to “save” Greece’s shame with a bogus “worst offenders” thread.

Covering up Human Rights abusers is being an accessory to such crimes and in a court of law your actions would be punishable by serious jail time, so may your penis drop from gangrene and a troubled HR victim spit and step on it.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:35 am

Me Ed wrote:It's quite interesting that muslims more often than not migrate to Christian countries/liberal democracies, than other muslim countries, probably due to their appauling human rights record, where as it is quite rare the other way round.

Most people migrate in the hope that they'll improve their finances and/or to avoid conflict in their homeland. Funnily enough, it’s these Muslims who migrate that are a high risk group of being on the receiving end of HR abuses from these "liberal democracies".
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Postby Sotos » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:37 am

GR is defeated and it shows by how upset he is :lol: What was the point of your thread GR? To show that Greece is the only country were human rights violations happen? You were proven wrong. To show that Greece is worst than most other countries? You were proven wrong. To show that some human rights violations happen in Greece also? We already knew that. Nobody said that Greece is perfect! So what was the POINT of your topic? What did you manage to prove? NOTHING. But I proved my point that Greece is far better than Turkey and many other countries. :D
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