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[DT.]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

EU citizens in the govt controlled area VP do not live in houses left behind by TC's because GC's are not allowed to sell them on. But you already knew that didn't you?

[Jerry]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

It's nothing to do with EU citizens living legitimately in the south, (unless they bought TC land of course ). The last people the GCs want in a GC state are the carpetbaggers. If a Brit had built a house on my land I would want him off even if it was a waste land. They will all have to move into the TC state, it will be a bit crowded but it's a problem of your own making.

[Viewpoint]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

EU citizens in the govt controlled area VP do not live in houses left behind by TC's because GC's are not allowed to sell them on. But you already knew that didn't you?

Are you 100% sure of that? aside from that I thought we were talking about residency the return of property is one that will have to be soved wholesale and money seems to be the only viablesolution for the refugees to buy close to where there properties were.

[Viewpoint]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

It's nothing to do with EU citizens living legitimately in the south, (unless they bought TC land of course ). The last people the GCs want in a GC state are the carpetbaggers. If a Brit had built a house on my land I would want him off even if it was a waste land. They will all have to move into the TC state, it will be a bit crowded but it's a problem of your own making.

Someone is going to have to accept compensation and if its not going to be the GC then it will have to be the Brits who will probabşy not want to live in the GC state any but then they will demolish these villas and return barren şand do you feel that right? or should the GC accept market value and buy somewhere close by.

[Byron]

Have the Christofias plans been published, does anybody know ?

[Jerry]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

It's nothing to do with EU citizens living legitimately in the south, (unless they bought TC land of course ). The last people the GCs want in a GC state are the carpetbaggers. If a Brit had built a house on my land I would want him off even if it was a waste land. They will all have to move into the TC state, it will be a bit crowded but it's a problem of your own making.

Someone is going to have to accept compensation and if its not going to be the GC then it will have to be the Brits who will probabşy not want to live in the GC state any but then they will demolish these villas and return barren şand do you feel that right? or should the GC accept market value and buy somewhere close by.

Well as a bargaining ploy the GC would probably start off by asking for rent and compensation for trespass then he could ask for a figure that would cover the cost of demolition and clearing the site. Faced with this the carpetbagger would hopefully just bugger off to where he came from.

Do you honestly think a GC would offer compensation to someone who had taken advantage of a refugee?

[Viewpoint]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

It's nothing to do with EU citizens living legitimately in the south, (unless they bought TC land of course ). The last people the GCs want in a GC state are the carpetbaggers. If a Brit had built a house on my land I would want him off even if it was a waste land. They will all have to move into the TC state, it will be a bit crowded but it's a problem of your own making.

Someone is going to have to accept compensation and if its not going to be the GC then it will have to be the Brits who will probabşy not want to live in the GC state any but then they will demolish these villas and return barren şand do you feel that right? or should the GC accept market value and buy somewhere close by.

Well as a bargaining ploy the GC would probably start off by asking for rent and compensation for trespass then he could ask for a figure that would cover the cost of demolition and clearing the site. Faced with this the carpetbagger would hopefully just bugger off to where he came from.

Do you honestly think a GC would offer compensation to someone who had taken advantage of a refugee?

No the GC doesnt compensate the Brit, the TRNC do by selling the land surrendered to them by TCs.

[Jerry]

What are your thoughts on where the carpetbaggers and "colonists" should go, VP? They would not be welcome in land returned to the ROC.

If born and raised here then we have no option but to rehouse these people in the TC state and hand back GC property in the land given returned to the GC state as they would neither want to reside there.

So, what about those who were not born and raised in Cyprus? What about the British Carpetbaggers, where will they go?

If these people have been here more than 10/15 years then they should be allowed to stay anyone else should be given permission like the Brits to reside here but only made a citizien if they meet the criteria as seen fit by the 2 states at the federal level. Dont forget these "carpetbaggers" as you call them are EU citizens, what do you do with the thousands you have residing in the GC south?

It's nothing to do with EU citizens living legitimately in the south, (unless they bought TC land of course ). The last people the GCs want in a GC state are the carpetbaggers. If a Brit had built a house on my land I would want him off even if it was a waste land. They will all have to move into the TC state, it will be a bit crowded but it's a problem of your own making.

Someone is going to have to accept compensation and if its not going to be the GC then it will have to be the Brits who will probabşy not want to live in the GC state any but then they will demolish these villas and return barren şand do you feel that right? or should the GC accept market value and buy somewhere close by.

Well as a bargaining ploy the GC would probably start off by asking for rent and compensation for trespass then he could ask for a figure that would cover the cost of demolition and clearing the site. Faced with this the carpetbagger would hopefully just bugger off to where he came from.

Do you honestly think a GC would offer compensation to someone who had taken advantage of a refugee?

No the GC doesnt compensate the Brit, the TRNC do by selling the land surrendered to them by TCs.

You don't have enough land to raise the sum required. Still, Turkey has been propping you up for 35 years, it must have loads of money - Turkey can pay.

[wyoming cowboy]

I think this thing about the coastline being of greater value then the interior is already outdated, due to the fact that minimal investment will be payed to build hotels and infrastructure like in the past...Greater investments will be towards farming, dont laugh because this is the trend that is being followed today and probably for the next 35 years..Water supplies are dwendling and farm land depleted throuhout the world, coupled with biofuel production which causes even more depletion of farm land, any and all cypriots if they are smart will want to hold onto farm land and not the coasts...If the TC state wants to hold onto sandy waterfront let them

"A study that will establish the facts. At the moment people are just bandying assumptions back and forth."

Tim. This is not hard to do. The Republic of Cyprus knows exactly who owns what land and I think it has a pretty good idea at what land the TC's were given when they moved north.

The key to solving this problem is the amount of land that is given back under GC control. I'm not sure exactly sure what the numbers are, but roughly 50K TC's had to move from the south to the north. Around 180K GC's moved south. Just by looking at these numbers, it can be seen that roughly 130K GC's would need to return under GC control. The figures being bandied around in the talks is for the return of around 110K GC's, so I think we are in the right ballpark.

Once a solution is agreed, the value of the land in the north will match the prices in the south, once the status of the land has been sorted out. There will be an inbalance because the TC side will have a huge amount of coastline under its control and many of the villages lie along or near the coast. The value of this land will be enormous due to its development potential. So, to compensate the original owners will involve vasts sums of money.

[DT.]

I think this thing about the coastline being of greater value then the interior is already outdated, due to the fact that minimal investment will be payed to build hotels and infrastructure like in the past...Greater investments will be towards farming, dont laugh because this is the trend that is being followed today and probably for the next 35 years..Water supplies are dwendling and farm land depleted throuhout the world, coupled with biofuel production which causes even more depletion of farm land, any and all cypriots if they are smart will want to hold onto farm land and not the coasts...If the TC state wants to hold onto sandy waterfront let them

"A study that will establish the facts. At the moment people are just bandying assumptions back and forth."

Tim. This is not hard to do. The Republic of Cyprus knows exactly who owns what land and I think it has a pretty good idea at what land the TC's were given when they moved north.

The key to solving this problem is the amount of land that is given back under GC control. I'm not sure exactly sure what the numbers are, but roughly 50K TC's had to move from the south to the north. Around 180K GC's moved south. Just by looking at these numbers, it can be seen that roughly 130K GC's would need to return under GC control. The figures being bandied around in the talks is for the return of around 110K GC's, so I think we are in the right ballpark.

Once a solution is agreed, the value of the land in the north will match the prices in the south, once the status of the land has been sorted out. There will be an inbalance because the TC side will have a huge amount of coastline under its control and many of the villages lie along or near the coast. The value of this land will be enormous due to its development potential. So, to compensate the original owners will involve vasts sums of money.

eeeerrrmmmm ........ no.
And by the way if you wanna buy some farm land in Kotchinotrimithkia let me know.