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[Main_Source]

Actually, my life experinces include working for one of the biggest record companies in the owrld...as well as DJing at one of the biggest niteclubs in the world (doing Ministry of Sound tonite).

but that really is besides the point lol.

anyway, are YOU a patriot for your country? is that why you work for them? what is it exactly you do?...apart from supporting Emperor Bush?

and what have you got to do witht he Cyprus Problem to get tired of it? are you trying to butt your swelled yankee head into this problem to...to make Cyprus another colony of the US?

and Gabaston...why does the problem start there? Dont you think the problem started when hundreds and thousands of Greeks were expelled from their ancestrol homes in Turkey?

As for pressure for an agreement? have you not been following the news? RoC recently offered Talat some pretty fair concessions to ease reunification...but like the previous muppet of Turkey (Denks)...Talat only knew the word NO.

As for his presonal aspirations selling us down the drain...I think saying YES to the Annan plan would have really been selling us down the drain. Papadopolous has stated how he thinks talks should take place...its up to the UN begin the next round in an organised manor.

[brother]

and Gabaston...why does the problem start there? Dont you think the problem started when hundreds and thousands of Greeks were expelled from their ancestrol homes in Turkey?

No the problem started with the GC desire for Enosis and the murderer Grivas who started to kill GC/TC .

[Main_Source]

all this 'the problem started' is silly...because to brothers post, i can say that the problem started with the British occupation following the Ottoman oppression and GC having enough of being shit upon and wanting to join up with Greece, like a lot of other Greek lands that manage to become free from Ottoman rule did. Do some research and have a look at how many other cpeoples under foreign rule found a sense of nationalism.

Brother, im serious here...if you like reggae music so much...type Marcus Garvey into you search engine and you will see similarites between his ideas (wanting his peoples to find a sense of pride and nationalism and come out of opressive rule)...and the ideas of Enosis.

As for Grivas, well I dont have respect for him...but Ataturk put to death a hell of a lot more people and he's loved by the Turkish nation.

[brother]

My point is we only have us cypriots to blame and not the u.s etc. its like when you was at school and the other boys coaxed you to beat someone up and when you done it you got into trouble not the boys that egged you on because you had a choice to say no and not do it.

As for nationalism i just do not believe in that outdated concept which only serves to unite people to go to war eventually.

[Main_Source]

well like it or not brother...but the leader of the Greek junta who promoted EOKA B, was backed by the CIA.

You need to look at other militray leaders around the world over the last 50 years...and you will see how many of them have been backed by the USA.

[brother]

I know the u.s is not whiter than white but we still had the choice.

[Main_Source]

Brother, with a little research, I can give you a full list of countries that have had internal strife, all because of the meddling of the USA or Britain.

[Murtaza]

all this 'the problem started' is silly...because to brothers post, i can say that the problem started with the British occupation following the Ottoman oppression and GC having enough of being shit upon and wanting to join up with Greece, like a lot of other Greek lands that manage to become free from Ottoman rule did. Do some research and have a look at how many other cpeoples under foreign rule found a sense of nationalism.

Brother, im serious here...if you like reggae music so much...type Marcus Garvey into you search engine and you will see similarites between his ideas (wanting his peoples to find a sense of pride and nationalism and come out of opressive rule)...and the ideas of Enosis.

As for Grivas, well I dont have respect for him...but Ataturk put to death a hell of a lot more people and he's loved by the Turkish nation.

This is bulshit, you are always right, when Turkey attacked cyprus you are right, because you are the owner of Cyprus( you are majority)

When Greece attacked anatolia you are again right, because you are the minority?

Bulshit

Yes Ataturk put to death a hell of a lot more people, and If greece attack Turkey, We will try it too.

Nonsense, It was greeks who murdered in anatolia, again It was greek who attacked anatolia, It was greeks who made a lot guilt against the law of war.(Greece accepted it)

But again It was greeks who are right!

You should realy think more more more more

[gabaston]

i wrote the "no win situation" was started by greeks in 1963. How were you ever going to win? and if ancestral greeks in turkey are the problem then we'll never get anywhere - will we?


So its ok for gcs to want pride and nationalism and not wishing to be shit on huh , but for the tcs?......... lets just carry on shitting on them coz they are decendants of Ottomans? ..........

welcome to the third millenium.

[Kifeas]

i wrote the "no win situation" was started by greeks in 1963. How were you ever going to win? and if ancestral greeks in turkey are the problem then we'll never get anywhere - will we?


So its ok for gcs to want pride and nationalism and not wishing to be shit on huh , but for the tcs?......... lets just carry on shitting on them coz they are decendants of Ottomans? ..........

welcome to the third millenium.

Who shit on you gabaston? Tell me now and I am going to smack him! Fcuking bastards! They shit on gabaston!