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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:23 pm

Wow guys I know im letting myself in for it with this post – yes my neck is going on the chopping block, and you will chop it off. – I probably wont entertain you or make any friends with what im about to say here- but im begining to get a bit pissed off with all the anti-american vibes flying around the world –

Can any of you tell me which nation has fought harder against oppressive dictatorships than the USA.

They fought the Nazis
They helped the jews when they were homeless.
They fought to stop the growth of communism in Korea and Viet-Nam
They opposed the Soviet regime.
They got rid of Sadam (who ruled by threat of death)……….you may say it was for oil.but there’s probably a bit more to it.
They stopped the Bosnian Genocide.


Come on - Give them a break. No nation has done more to protect the free world.

Right you can start slinging your shit at me now.
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Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:29 pm

funny how they always get involved when they can get something.
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Postby Yiannis » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:31 pm

Right you can start slinging your shit at me now.

:lol:
Run buddy, they are coming to get ya :)
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:33 pm

ok look at it this way

if the chinese suddenly decide they can not produce enough oil for a developing nation of one point three billion people, then guess who our best friend is gonna be.
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:53 pm

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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:15 pm

gabaston wrote:They fought the Nazis
They helped the jews when they were homeless.
They fought to stop the growth of communism in Korea and Viet-Nam
They opposed the Soviet regime.
They got rid of Sadam (who ruled by threat of death)……….you may say it was for oil.but there’s probably a bit more to it.
They stopped the Bosnian Genocide.

Just wanted to add this one:
We'll never know how many terrorist attacks (and of what magnitude) they've prevented with their harsh attacks at regimes that harbored terrorism.

They've done a lot of things wrong, but they've also got many things right. At times, they've even managed both with one stroke. Iraq II was one of those times.
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Postby JustAnAmerican » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:29 am

cannedmoose wrote:
JustAnAmerican wrote:We already have the use of two bases here in Cyprus Akrotiri and Dekalia. We don't need another.


Not legally you don't... plus, the SBAs cannot be transferred to another country by the UK... if the UK ever decides to pull out (which it won't), the areas have to be returned to the RoC government.


Moose, it is very legal. It is called a MMOU. We sign them with foreign governments all of the time. Basically, it is a Military Memorandum of Understanding.
If a mission requires it, we are allowed to stop there or train at that location if need be. We have several MMOUs with the Greek government in Greece, including the functions in and around the work of the US base at Souda Bay. We have some agreements in Turkey to use Incerlik, and we have an MMOU to use several bases in Egypt.

I was answering the thread stated earlier that the US needs another base here. It is pretty obvious that we don’t.

Source, scrapping the Sovereign bases will never happen. Even if the Brits said tomorrow they did not want them, the US would finance the operation to keep them open.
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Postby JustAnAmerican » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:33 am

demetriou_74 wrote:funny how they always get involved when they can get something.


Funny, how it is never reported when a government begs and pleas for help privately.

And don’t start any threads of bull; the Ambassador meets with Papa and Talat at least once a week. He is invited to thier palaces.
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Postby JustAnAmerican » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:35 am

Oh yeah, I forgot, Gabaston and Saint Jimmy, your Visas to the US have been extended ten years.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:58 am

JustAnAmerican wrote: Moose, it is very legal. It is called a MMOU. We sign them with foreign governments all of the time. Basically, it is a Military Memorandum of Understanding.
If a mission requires it, we are allowed to stop there or train at that location if need be. We have several MMOUs with the Greek government in Greece, including the functions in and around the work of the US base at Souda Bay. We have some agreements in Turkey to use Incerlik, and we have an MMOU to use several bases in Egypt.

I was answering the thread stated earlier that the US needs another base here. It is pretty obvious that we don’t.

Source, scrapping the Sovereign bases will never happen. Even if the Brits said tomorrow they did not want them, the US would finance the operation to keep them open.


From a legal perspective, the status of the British bases in Cyprus is in a vacuum. Furthermore, they are not sovereign. Furthermore, Britain did not pay the rent until this day, owing some 5 billion dollars already. The RoC does not have the intention to raise any of the above issues yet. However, the behaviour of Britain is constantly monitored and if it continues to appear so hostile as it used to be up until recently, nothing can be guaranteed.
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