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"Evkaf"... "Vakif"... are you for real?

5.7 The Immovable Property (Tenure, Registration and Valuation) Law

This law was enacted in 1946, replacing the Ottoman Land Law prevailing until then. It is considered to be A to Z of immovable property in Cyprus, dealing with all matters concerning the tenure, registration, disposition and valuation of immovable property, within the framework of the Land Registry system of Cyprus, which comprises all the works and means by which immovable property is technically defined and drawn, legally recognised, secured and financially valued.

The Land Registry system of Cyprus is unique, in that by its function the history of each piece of land is traced back to the date of the General Survey. The rights in land are defined and secured and all transactions relating to immovable property are safe and protected.

Cyprus is one of the 4 or 5 countries in the world which maintain such an accurate and effective Land Registry system. Moreover, with the completion of the computerisation of all its services, it is expected that the services will not only be upgraded but also accelerated.

According to this law Aimmovable property@ means:

(a) any land;

(b) buildings and other erections, structures or fixtures affixed to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(c ) trees, vines and any other thing whatsoever planted or growing upon any land and any produce thereof before severance;

(d) springs, wells, water and water rights whether held together with, or independently, of any land;

(e) privileges, liberties, easements and any other rights and advantages whatsoever appertaining or reputed to appertain to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(f) an undivided share in any property hereinbefore set out.


AMovable property@ includes anything not constituting immovable property.

Section 40 of the law provides that ownership of immovable property or rights in immovable property can only be acquired by registration at the Land Registry, through the proper procedure described in the law and that such registration may only be effected by the registered owner of the property.

http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/busop_property.htm

[denizaksulu]

"Evkaf"... "Vakif"... are you for real?

5.7 The Immovable Property (Tenure, Registration and Valuation) Law

This law was enacted in 1946, replacing the Ottoman Land Law prevailing until then. It is considered to be A to Z of immovable property in Cyprus, dealing with all matters concerning the tenure, registration, disposition and valuation of immovable property, within the framework of the Land Registry system of Cyprus, which comprises all the works and means by which immovable property is technically defined and drawn, legally recognised, secured and financially valued.

The Land Registry system of Cyprus is unique, in that by its function the history of each piece of land is traced back to the date of the General Survey. The rights in land are defined and secured and all transactions relating to immovable property are safe and protected.

Cyprus is one of the 4 or 5 countries in the world which maintain such an accurate and effective Land Registry system. Moreover, with the completion of the computerisation of all its services, it is expected that the services will not only be upgraded but also accelerated.

According to this law Aimmovable property@ means:

(a) any land;

(b) buildings and other erections, structures or fixtures affixed to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(c ) trees, vines and any other thing whatsoever planted or growing upon any land and any produce thereof before severance;

(d) springs, wells, water and water rights whether held together with, or independently, of any land;

(e) privileges, liberties, easements and any other rights and advantages whatsoever appertaining or reputed to appertain to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(f) an undivided share in any property hereinbefore set out.


AMovable property@ includes anything not constituting immovable property.

Section 40 of the law provides that ownership of immovable property or rights in immovable property can only be acquired by registration at the Land Registry, through the proper procedure described in the law and that such registration may only be effected by the registered owner of the property.

http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/busop_property.htm

What do you think the above says GR. According to DT, all Evkaf land IS registered with the Land Registry of the RoC.

[DT.]

"Evkaf"... "Vakif"... are you for real?

5.7 The Immovable Property (Tenure, Registration and Valuation) Law

This law was enacted in 1946, replacing the Ottoman Land Law prevailing until then. It is considered to be A to Z of immovable property in Cyprus, dealing with all matters concerning the tenure, registration, disposition and valuation of immovable property, within the framework of the Land Registry system of Cyprus, which comprises all the works and means by which immovable property is technically defined and drawn, legally recognised, secured and financially valued.

The Land Registry system of Cyprus is unique, in that by its function the history of each piece of land is traced back to the date of the General Survey. The rights in land are defined and secured and all transactions relating to immovable property are safe and protected.

Cyprus is one of the 4 or 5 countries in the world which maintain such an accurate and effective Land Registry system. Moreover, with the completion of the computerisation of all its services, it is expected that the services will not only be upgraded but also accelerated.

According to this law Aimmovable property@ means:

(a) any land;

(b) buildings and other erections, structures or fixtures affixed to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(c ) trees, vines and any other thing whatsoever planted or growing upon any land and any produce thereof before severance;

(d) springs, wells, water and water rights whether held together with, or independently, of any land;

(e) privileges, liberties, easements and any other rights and advantages whatsoever appertaining or reputed to appertain to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(f) an undivided share in any property hereinbefore set out.


AMovable property@ includes anything not constituting immovable property.

Section 40 of the law provides that ownership of immovable property or rights in immovable property can only be acquired by registration at the Land Registry, through the proper procedure described in the law and that such registration may only be effected by the registered owner of the property.

http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/busop_property.htm

What do you think the above says GR. According to DT, all Evkaf land IS registered with the Land Registry of the RoC.

where did i say that?

[denizaksulu]

"Evkaf"... "Vakif"... are you for real?

5.7 The Immovable Property (Tenure, Registration and Valuation) Law

This law was enacted in 1946, replacing the Ottoman Land Law prevailing until then. It is considered to be A to Z of immovable property in Cyprus, dealing with all matters concerning the tenure, registration, disposition and valuation of immovable property, within the framework of the Land Registry system of Cyprus, which comprises all the works and means by which immovable property is technically defined and drawn, legally recognised, secured and financially valued.

The Land Registry system of Cyprus is unique, in that by its function the history of each piece of land is traced back to the date of the General Survey. The rights in land are defined and secured and all transactions relating to immovable property are safe and protected.

Cyprus is one of the 4 or 5 countries in the world which maintain such an accurate and effective Land Registry system. Moreover, with the completion of the computerisation of all its services, it is expected that the services will not only be upgraded but also accelerated.

According to this law Aimmovable property@ means:

(a) any land;

(b) buildings and other erections, structures or fixtures affixed to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(c ) trees, vines and any other thing whatsoever planted or growing upon any land and any produce thereof before severance;

(d) springs, wells, water and water rights whether held together with, or independently, of any land;

(e) privileges, liberties, easements and any other rights and advantages whatsoever appertaining or reputed to appertain to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(f) an undivided share in any property hereinbefore set out.


AMovable property@ includes anything not constituting immovable property.

Section 40 of the law provides that ownership of immovable property or rights in immovable property can only be acquired by registration at the Land Registry, through the proper procedure described in the law and that such registration may only be effected by the registered owner of the property.

http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/busop_property.htm

What do you think the above says GR. According to DT, all Evkaf land IS registered with the Land Registry of the RoC.

where did i say that?

When there was a ding dong with GR a few weeks back.

Oops, it must have been Kifeas.

I will try and find the right quotes. Apologies for any 'slanderous' accusations.

[DT.]

When there was a ding dong with GR a few weeks back.

Oops, it must have been Kifeas.

I will try and find the right quotes. Apologies for any 'slanderous' accusations.

no worries...was starting to think that I had another blackout on the forum.

[denizaksulu]

When there was a ding dong with GR a few weeks back.

Oops, it must have been Kifeas.

I will try and find the right quotes. Apologies for any 'slanderous' accusations.

no worries...was starting to think that I had another blackout on the forum.

I hope it was Kifeas. I am still searching. GR knows but is keeping schtum.

[YFred]

When there was a ding dong with GR a few weeks back.

Oops, it must have been Kifeas.

I will try and find the right quotes. Apologies for any 'slanderous' accusations.

no worries...was starting to think that I had another blackout on the forum.

I hope it was Kifeas. I am still searching. GR knows but is keeping schtum.

Deniz, it was Kifeas, I remember the post, but I wouldn't put too much importance in what is said, what matters is whats on the land maps that Talat has. Especially if they correspond with the RoC maps. And if they don't we'll give the RoC maps a fair look and then we'll change them!

[denizaksulu]

YES, IT WAS KIFEAS. LET GR SORT IT OUT WITH KIFEAS.

Sorry again DT.



Kifeas
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Location: Lapithos, Kyrenia, now Pafos; Cyprus.






Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.


But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.


Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

These “Evkaf lands” (read fantasy lands) you mention is the product of the Ottoman violation of Cypriot territory starting from 1570, so your argument is a load of ILLEGAL crap.


I hate to say so but some of you in this forum have a compulsive habit to talk out of your ass. Of course there is private property in Cyprus registered under EVKA's name, just like there is also Church land! Even now -as we speak, there are properties in the RoC land registry, both north and south, that belong to Evkaf and are registered under its name. Denktash and Kutchuk (on behalf of Evkaf,) took money from the British in 1959, not to wave Evkaf's rights out of all of Evkaf properties, but only out of those properties that Evkaf claimed they used to belong to them during the Ottoman years and which the British had appropriated in the early 1900's. The deal did not affect any Evkaf properties already registered under its name in 1959 by the colonial land registry, and which subsequently became the LR of the RoC in 1060. Such properties remained in Evkaf's name, they still continue to this day to be in Evkaf's name, and they are calculated as part of the private property belonging to the members of the TC community, along with the rest of individual TC properties.

[Get Real!]

...what matters is whats on the land maps that Talat has.

Yup, once Talat's maps are presented that's when the REAL complications will arise...

[YFred]

...what matters is whats on the land maps that Talat has.

Yup, once Talat's maps are presented that's when the REAL complications will arise...

Nobody said it was easy!