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[denizaksulu]

The Turkish Cypriots should be given an ultimatum to repair all the churches within a reasonable period of time or Tekke turned into a pig sty.

Fair & square is the way I like it…

Fair and square: the Greek Cypriots should also be given the same amount of time to repair all of the mosques. But what will they do about the ones they razed to the ground?

I presume you want the Turkish Cypriots to rebuild the Church of Panagia Apagou in Khelones and the Church of Agia Katerina in Gerani.

So, presumably, the Greek Cypriots should also rebuild the mosques in Kidasi, Phalia, Goshi, Ktima Paphos, Deneia, Flasou, Korakou, Loukrounou, Fasli, Magounda...? (And I list those mosques because they're the ones documented by the bicommunal Cyprus Temples project, so you can't dismiss it as propaganda.)

What deadline would you like?

Presenting only one community as the victim is untrue and unhelpful. Nationalist extremists on both sides have destroyed lives and communities. If you don't acknowledge that and do something about it, you will never rescue your country, or even your community, because extremism will thrive and innocent individuals and communities will continue to suffer. If you want your churches repaired, why don't you consider a paired project - repair one church, repair one mosque?

If you continue to tell the other community to repair your churches while you leave their mosques to decay, and when you have destroyed so many mosques that are now not ruins, but archaeological sites under the soil, you will achieve nothing.

The above mentioned 'Project' has failed to list the Mosque in my village. Even as 'destroyed/razed to the ground/weather worn'.

Ofcourse out of sight, out of mind.

The 'Projects' work is incomplete.

As mentioned above , all Cypriots should help to restore all religious sites to their former state.

[samarkeolog]

The Turkish Cypriots should be given an ultimatum to repair all the churches within a reasonable period of time or Tekke turned into a pig sty.

Fair & square is the way I like it…

Fair and square: the Greek Cypriots should also be given the same amount of time to repair all of the mosques. But what will they do about the ones they razed to the ground?

I presume you want the Turkish Cypriots to rebuild the Church of Panagia Apagou in Khelones and the Church of Agia Katerina in Gerani.

So, presumably, the Greek Cypriots should also rebuild the mosques in Kidasi, Phalia, Goshi, Ktima Paphos, Deneia, Flasou, Korakou, Loukrounou, Fasli, Magounda...? (And I list those mosques because they're the ones documented by the bicommunal Cyprus Temples project, so you can't dismiss it as propaganda.)

What deadline would you like?

Presenting only one community as the victim is untrue and unhelpful. Nationalist extremists on both sides have destroyed lives and communities. If you don't acknowledge that and do something about it, you will never rescue your country, or even your community, because extremism will thrive and innocent individuals and communities will continue to suffer. If you want your churches repaired, why don't you consider a paired project - repair one church, repair one mosque?

If you continue to tell the other community to repair your churches while you leave their mosques to decay, and when you have destroyed so many mosques that are now not ruins, but archaeological sites under the soil, you will achieve nothing.

The above mentioned 'Project' has failed to list the Mosque in my village. Even as 'destroyed/razed to the ground/weather worn'.

Ofcourse out of sight, out of mind.

The 'Projects' work is incomplete.

As mentioned above , all Cypriots should help to restore all religious sites to their former state.

Yes, unfortunately, it hasn't visited every site.

It couldn't visit some; it didn't visit others; it didn't visit any mosques in northern Cyprus (or churches in southern Cyprus, but some of the churches in northern Cyprus were damaged or destroyed between 1963 and 1974).

It also made some mistakes. The project said Evdimou Mosque was in good condition, which it was... because the Republic of Cyprus rebuilt it after its destruction. I am glad that the mosque was rebuilt; but it was rebuilt to hide the fact that it had been destroyed. I can't blame the project though: it was tricked, by professionals.

(Restoration work is supposed to show the difference between the original parts of the building and the new parts. That has been an international professional standard since the 1931 Athens Charter for the Restoration of Historic Monuments.)

But it was still quite an achievement.

[Kikapu]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

[samarkeolog]

Here are the remains of Goshi Mosque (Kossi Camisi).

If the churches are to be restored, and the mosques, so should the homes. Eighty Greek Cypriot homes have been destroyed in Rizokarpaso. Up to a few hundred Greek Cypriot homes may have been destroyed during the 1963-1974 conflict. Thousands of Turkish Cypriot homes have been destroyed across the island.

Greek Cypriots rightly complain that their churches have been damaged or destroyed. But many mosques have been destroyed, and entire Turkish Cypriot villages. It's historically inaccurate and dangerous only to acknowledge and talk about churches' treatment. It encourages bitterness and division, and will help keep the island partitioned.

[Edited to make it read 1963-1974, not 1963-197...]

[YFred]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

Kiks, there is only one kind of a mosque where people pray for your sins to be forgiven!

[Kikapu]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

Kiks, there is only one kind of a mosque where people pray for your sins to be forgiven!

Is that what mosques are for.??

I thought one needs to go to a confession box to have their sins forgiven.!

Then again, I don't know too much about any religion. I respect them, but do not follow them.

Anyway YFred, once again you are introducing a topic different from my question, and since you chose to answer it, why don't you answer it.!

[DT.]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

I can't believe it costs 309,000 Euros just to place a minaret on a church and to remove a cross.

[Kikapu]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

I can't believe it costs 309,000 Euros just to place a minaret on a church and to remove a cross.

OK, now the light has come on in my head.!

Thanks, DT.!

[denizaksulu]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

Kiks, there is only one kind of a mosque where people pray for your sins to be forgiven!

Its in the Catholic Church where you sin, then ask for forgiveness.

In a mosque you ask for guidance.

I just follow my nose.

[denizaksulu]

I was just wondering what kind of a mosque one can build for 309,000 Euros, because that would be the average cost per each mosque if it only costs 6.5 Million Euros to build 21 mosques.?

I can't believe it costs 309,000 Euros just to place a minaret on a church and to remove a cross.

OK, now the light has come on in my head.!

Thanks, DT.!

Why not use the bell tower/campanilla. The Spanish did that in Cordova.

They dont need a minaret anyway. Even in Istanbul they use hoparlor/loud hailers/speakers. All they need is a telegraph pole. Even better leave the churches alone and let the Christian citizens follow their own religion in their own churches. The money for the mosques can go towards paying for the civil servants wages or the care of the elderly.