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Varosha/Maras-is it haunted?

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Postby Floda » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Its a bit late for the Panayia of Kykkos now.

RIP all those innocents.


AND,.....................'RIP OFF' all the survivors...............by all accounts. :wink:


For a moment I thought you had grown up. You seem to make light of the thread. Go and put a donkeys saddle over your head.


In actual fact my friend, the remark I make is probably the only one that has any real significance relative to the area in question.

If you wish to believe in the presence of 'Ghosts' and 'Demons', that is a matter for your own conscience.

All the niceties of wishing those who were murdered in cold blood to R.I.P. (correctly presented) may serve to give the impression that one has some respect for the innocent victims.

The reality is, that the survivors were and are 'Ripped/Being Ripped Off' and I make no apology for mentioning the fact.

'Ghosts' I do not believe in, as to 'Demons', yes, there still are some in the vicinity, you will recognise them by their shabby uniforms. IMHO. :wink:
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Re: And I thought you might be serious, Oracle!

Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:19 pm

cymart wrote:The first part was interesting and might even have been plausible if you had given us more information,but then you spoiled it!


Are you referring to the two missing Dutch tourists?

Because that is very real ....
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:58 pm

we must realy be running out of things to say hypothetically what would we talk about if the cyprus problem was solved ....your thoughts
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Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby cymart » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:00 am

Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:53 am

Cymart,

Of course there is something metaphysical going on. Just imagine, there are 45000 people who daily think of their life in Famagusta and that thinking is accompanied by emotion, usually internalised. That must have an effect, and since it is not directly or immediately manifested through physical means we call it metaphysical.

Now add to those daily thoughts the reactions of those that see or read or browse the dead city, and you have an added effect.

I would not call it metaphysical, it is simply an accumulated and growing ill will towards the people who emptied the city and kept its inhabitants out for 35 years.
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Re: Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:08 pm

cymart wrote:Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
Thanks.


Here's the Cyprus Mail article from last October relating to the incident. I can't find any references to what may have happened to them.

Dutch seek information about tourist arrests

By Nathan Morley

DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.

The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.

Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.

Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.

A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”

However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.

“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.

Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.

Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.

An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009
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Re: Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
cymart wrote:Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
Thanks.


Here's the Cyprus Mail article from last October relating to the incident. I can't find any references to what may have happened to them.

Dutch seek information about tourist arrests

By Nathan Morley

DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.

The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.

Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.

Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.

A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”

However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.

“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.

Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.

Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.

An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009



Why have we not heard of the matter since then? Is there a chance that they were released and not reported by the media who first informed us. I remembr this incident when first published. Perhaps using your influence you could contact the Dutch embassy to find out.
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Re: Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cymart wrote:Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
Thanks.


Here's the Cyprus Mail article from last October relating to the incident. I can't find any references to what may have happened to them.

Dutch seek information about tourist arrests

By Nathan Morley

DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.

The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.

Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.

Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.

A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”

However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.

“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.

Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.

Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.

An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009



Why have we not heard of the matter since then? Is there a chance that they were released and not reported by the media who first informed us. I remembr this incident when first published. Perhaps using your influence you could contact the Dutch embassy to find out.


Deniz ... the Dutch Diplomats don't know themselves! :roll:

I've raised the question of what has happened to them several times on the forum when this matter has cropped up, but no one is any the wiser. I've searched the News, as well, with keywords ... but nothing!

It's a mystery ....

Best stay away from the Turkish occupied north! :(
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Re: Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby YFred » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:40 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cymart wrote:Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
Thanks.


Here's the Cyprus Mail article from last October relating to the incident. I can't find any references to what may have happened to them.

Dutch seek information about tourist arrests

By Nathan Morley

DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.

The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.

Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.

Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.

A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”

However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.

“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.

Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.

Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.

An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009



Why have we not heard of the matter since then? Is there a chance that they were released and not reported by the media who first informed us. I remembr this incident when first published. Perhaps using your influence you could contact the Dutch embassy to find out.


Deniz ... the Dutch Diplomats don't know themselves! :roll:

I've raised the question of what has happened to them several times on the forum when this matter has cropped up, but no one is any the wiser. I've searched the News, as well, with keywords ... but nothing!

It's a mystery ....

Best stay away from the Turkish occupied north! :(

What a good idea. Make it Demis Rusos (for ever and ever)
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Re: Missing Dutch tourists etc.

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:18 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cymart wrote:Please tell us more because this is seriously interesting.
Thanks.


Here's the Cyprus Mail article from last October relating to the incident. I can't find any references to what may have happened to them.

Dutch seek information about tourist arrests

By Nathan Morley

DUTCH diplomats are urgently looking into reports that two of their citizens have been arrested by Turkish Cypriot police in Famagusta.

The two men, who are understood to be on a package holiday, were arrested yesterday for allegedly taking photographs near several abandoned hotels in the Varosha district of Famagusta.

Despite being sealed off by wire fencing, the area is popular with tourists who often take photographs of the decaying buildings from a nearby beach.

Varosha, which has been a ghost town since 1974, is occupied by Turkish troops and used as a military base.

A spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Nicosia told the Cyprus Mail that they were aware of the arrests and were “not prepared to discuss or make comment on the case at this point.”

However, a spokesman for the Dutch Foreign Ministry speaking from Amsterdam, confirmed that the men had been detained and that the Netherlands government was seeking information from the Turkish Cypriots.

“We actually know very little about this incident at the moment, we are trying to look further into the situation and discover what is actually happening on the ground,” he said.

Media in northern Cyprus reported last night a police investigation has been launched, while the cameras of the two men, aged 26 and 34, have been confiscated.

Several Turkish Cypriot radio channels claimed that the men have denied taking photographs inside a restricted military zone – a serious offence in the heavily fortified north.

An assessment of the men’s photographs is being conducted by experts.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009



Why have we not heard of the matter since then? Is there a chance that they were released and not reported by the media who first informed us. I remembr this incident when first published. Perhaps using your influence you could contact the Dutch embassy to find out.


Deniz ... the Dutch Diplomats don't know themselves! :roll:

I've raised the question of what has happened to them several times on the forum when this matter has cropped up, but no one is any the wiser. I've searched the News, as well, with keywords ... but nothing!

It's a mystery ....

Best stay away from the Turkish occupied north! :(



Have the Dutch made a statement since then? That was myquestion. I know you wish to spread fear, but, we still like to get to the bottom of the matter.

Perhaps we should consult Halil!!!
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