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The Common Labour Struggles of Greek and Turkish Cypriots

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:53 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:Oracle, there is never any justification for the killing of innocents;NEVER. For once in your life and on this forum, show compassion for ALL the innocents. OMG, I am getting a headache. :twisted:

Condemn the B----y murderers of this little child.


In regards to Oracle, to this day we are yet to see any sign of compassion against any TC, even a 16 day old baby. She is blinded by her hate and fascist views to an extent beyond repair. Out of everyone on this forum I'd have to say that O's logic scares the crap out of me.

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Tend to agree with you here - we are dealing with a mindset that is so so dangerous.


At last someone can see the dangers Oracle and Piratis are 2 perfect examples of the mindset you will be exposed to in a united Cyprus. They will cause your death and have no problems putting the blame on anyone but themselves....we TCs have to be so careful GCs are dangerous and will also place us and our future in danger at every opportunity.


Saddle? Donkey? Race horse?


Exactly DT we TCs have to be extra extra careful to get as many safeguards and guarantees we can against dangerous mindsets like Piratis and Oracle.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:57 pm

Oracle wrote:So back to what I was trying to puzzle out at the start of the thread ...

If some 7 - 10,000 GCs volunteered ... that was a huge gap in the workforce to be lost for some years.

Presumably, most were enticed further to join (a foreign army ... British) because of the promise of Enosis with Greece.

If some 700 to 1,000 TCs also joined ... they must have been pretty keen on Enosis too.

At what point did these TCs join?

Was it near the end of the war?

Turkey did not join in the war until the very last minute, so that they can ensure UN membership (crafty).

So, were the TCs given the go-ahead to join at this point? Or did they join earlier to help Enosis?

(I realise I am out of my depth with war stuff ... but there are a few things which do not tie up for me ... but, I shall clumsily work my way through them.)


The Cyprus Regiment wasn't disbanded until 1950 and from about 10,000 involved during the war, some 30,000 appear to have been involved subsequently in total up to the 1950 disbanding.

During the war, a few thousand volunteers helped in auxiliary jobs in Cyprus and so were not directly involved in fighting.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Oracle, there is never any justification for the killing of innocents;NEVER. For once in your life and on this forum, show compassion for ALL the innocents. OMG, I am getting a headache. :twisted:

Condemn the B----y murderers of this little child.


In regards to Oracle, to this day we are yet to see any sign of compassion against any TC, even a 16 day old baby. She is blinded by her hate and fascist views to an extent beyond repair. Out of everyone on this forum I'd have to say that O's logic scares the crap out of me.

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Tend to agree with you here - we are dealing with a mindset that is so so dangerous.


At last someone can see the dangers Oracle and Piratis are 2 perfect examples of the mindset you will be exposed to in a united Cyprus. They will cause your death and have no problems putting the blame on anyone but themselves....we TCs have to be so careful GCs are dangerous and will also place us and our future in danger at every opportunity.


Is that because we oppose war and the violation of Human Rights?

Trust you to turn up when you hear "baby" and "killed" ... you just love your deaths! :evil: Trying to gather evidence for GCs eating TC babies and "decapitating" Kurds/Armenians whilst dressed up as Turks?
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Postby Jerry » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:16 pm

Many Cypriots who were resident in the UK before 1939 joined regular British units. My father joined the RAF regiment and travelled all over the Far East and India. He wrote a book about his "adventures" called "A Cypriot Airman without Wings". Unfortunately he omitted to have it proof read but it sold 1000 copies. He met and befriended Clerides who as you probably know was a POW in Germany. They stayed in touch, Clerides actually wrote an introduction to my father's book. Coincidentally my father died on the same day as Cleride's wife, 6th June 2007, also the D-Day anniversary aged 94. He campaigned most of his life for Cyprus and attended several meetings in Parliament with the Friends of Cyprus.


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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:07 pm

Oracle wrote:So back to what I was trying to puzzle out at the start of the thread ...
If some 7 - 10,000 GCs volunteered ... that was a huge gap in the workforce to be lost for some years.
Presumably, most were enticed further to join (a foreign army ... British) because of the promise of Enosis with Greece.
If some 700 to 1,000 TCs also joined ... they must have been pretty keen on Enosis too.
At what point did these TCs join?
Was it near the end of the war?
Turkey did not join in the war until the very last minute, so that they can ensure UN membership (crafty).
So, were the TCs given the go-ahead to join at this point? Or did they join earlier to help Enosis?

(I realise I am out of my depth with war stuff ... but there are a few things which do not tie up for me ... but, I shall clumsily work my way through them.)

You’re as thick as a Greek mud-brick… :roll:

All you had to do was look at the casualties list where you’d find that the first three TCs died on…

AHMED ALI, Private, CY/3903. Cyprus Regiment.
20th August 1943. Son οf Αli Hussein, οf Nicosia.

AZIZ MOUSTAFA, Private, CY/17821. Cyprus Regiment.
11th September 1941. Son οf Moustafa Attem and Hattize Souleiman,
husband οf Zoulfoue Αziz Moustafa, οf Famagusta.

ΜΕΗΜΕΤ MAHMOUD, Private, CY/3718. Cyprus Regiment. 3rd August 1940.

http://www.cyprusveterans.com.cy/list-passed-away.php

Now you owe them an apology.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:09 pm

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Oracle wrote:So back to what I was trying to puzzle out at the start of the thread ...
If some 7 - 10,000 GCs volunteered ... that was a huge gap in the workforce to be lost for some years.
Presumably, most were enticed further to join (a foreign army ... British) because of the promise of Enosis with Greece.
If some 700 to 1,000 TCs also joined ... they must have been pretty keen on Enosis too.
At what point did these TCs join?
Was it near the end of the war?
Turkey did not join in the war until the very last minute, so that they can ensure UN membership (crafty).
So, were the TCs given the go-ahead to join at this point? Or did they join earlier to help Enosis?

(I realise I am out of my depth with war stuff ... but there are a few things which do not tie up for me ... but, I shall clumsily work my way through them.)

You’re as thick as a Greek mud-brick… :roll:

All you had to do was look at the casualties list where you’d find that the first three TCs died on…

AHMED ALI, Private, CY/3903. Cyprus Regiment.
20th August 1943. Son οf Αli Hussein, οf Nicosia.

AZIZ MOUSTAFA, Private, CY/17821. Cyprus Regiment.
11th September 1941. Son οf Moustafa Attem and Hattize Souleiman,
husband οf Zoulfoue Αziz Moustafa, οf Famagusta.

ΜΕΗΜΕΤ MAHMOUD, Private, CY/3718. Cyprus Regiment. 3rd August 1940.

http://www.cyprusveterans.com.cy/list-passed-away.php

Now you owe them an apology.


But did they fight for Enosis?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:16 pm

Oracle wrote:But did they fight for Enosis?

I don’t know but I can predict what you’ll be fighting for this week the way things are going…
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:20 pm

Jerry wrote:Many Cypriots who were resident in the UK before 1939 joined regular British units. My father joined the RAF regiment and travelled all over the Far East and India. He wrote a book about his "adventures" called "A Cypriot Airman without Wings". Unfortunately he omitted to have it proof read but it sold 1000 copies. He met and befriended Clerides who as you probably know was a POW in Germany. They stayed in touch, Clerides actually wrote an introduction to my father's book. Coincidentally my father died on the same day as Cleride's wife, 6th June 2007, also the D-Day anniversary aged 94. He campaigned most of his life for Cyprus and attended several meetings in Parliament with the Friends of Cyprus.


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Thanks for sharing this mate. Perhaps you ought to proof-read it and republish. I'm sure there's market for this sort of nostalgia.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:But did they fight for Enosis?

I don’t know but I can predict what you’ll be fighting for this week the way things are going…


... some common sense to come your way?

What's the matter missing Paphitis?
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:49 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:But did they fight for Enosis?

I don’t know but I can predict what you’ll be fighting for this week the way things are going…


... some common sense to come your way?

What's the matter missing Paphitis?



They fought for King and Country & Empire, like many Cypriots did. I doubt that Enosis was on their minds. :roll:
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