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[YFred]

Some people seem not to know what EOKA were fighting for. They try to re-write history.

Eye witness account: April 1956

One hot day in front of the CYTA offices, next to the Turkish primary school, fighting erupted between the British army and Greek Gymnasium students and other youth who were chanting E....E...EOKA and ZHTO ENOSIS slogans. Young men were throwing stones at the army patrols. The soldiers used tear gas to disperse the clamouring crowd as a result the nearby school was shut down and the children sent home.

Reported by: A very young DA

Yeah but our GC friends would like to see the credible link?
The fact that you witnessed it doesn't wash with them.

[DT.]

Some people seem not to know what EOKA were fighting for. They try to re-write history.

Eye witness account: April 1956

One hot day in front of the CYTA offices, next to the Turkish primary school, fighting erupted between the British army and Greek Gymnasium students and other youth who were chanting E....E...EOKA and ZHTO ENOSIS slogans. Young men were throwing stones at the army patrols. The soldiers used tear gas to disperse the clamouring crowd as a result the nearby school was shut down and the children sent home.

Reported by: A very young DA

Yeah but our GC friends would like to see the credible link?
The fact that you witnessed it doesn't wash with them.

The question is what was EOKA fighting for. Where the young men throwing stones at the British chanting slogans the official mouthpiece of EOKA?

[Piratis]

Oracle, there is never any justification for the killing of innocents;NEVER. For once in your life and on this forum, show compassion for ALL the innocents. OMG, I am getting a headache.

Condemn the B----y murderers of this little child.

In regards to Oracle, to this day we are yet to see any sign of compassion against any TC, even a 16 day old baby. She is blinded by her hate and fascist views to an extent beyond repair. Out of everyone on this forum I'd have to say that O's logic scares the crap out of me.

Tend to agree with you here - we are dealing with a mindset that is so so dangerous.

At last someone can see the dangers Oracle and Piratis are 2 perfect examples of the mindset you will be exposed to in a united Cyprus. They will cause your death and have no problems putting the blame on anyone but themselves....we TCs have to be so careful GCs are dangerous and will also place us and our future in danger at every opportunity.

History proves that we GCs are very forgiving and we only fight back when we are attacked and there is an attempt to deprive us from our human and democratic rights.

It is you who encourages aggression and attacks against innocent people for the sole reason of imposing on them by force your minority opinion and gain Ottoman style privileges on the expense of everybody else.

Is that how GCs fight back killing and burying a 16 month old baby?

Why you don't complain about the 1000s of innocent people, including many (not just one) children that you killed with your invasion?

If it wasn't for the Turkish invasion none of those would have died. And still you support the Turkish invasion which was the reason all those people died. You are a sick unethical scum.

[denizaksulu]

Some people seem not to know what EOKA were fighting for. They try to re-write history.

Eye witness account: April 1956

One hot day in front of the CYTA offices, next to the Turkish primary school, fighting erupted between the British army and Greek Gymnasium students and other youth who were chanting E....E...EOKA and ZHTO ENOSIS slogans. Young men were throwing stones at the army patrols. The soldiers used tear gas to disperse the clamouring crowd as a result the nearby school was shut down and the children sent home.

Reported by: A very young DA

Yeah but our GC friends would like to see the credible link?
The fact that you witnessed it doesn't wash with them.

I know what I saw and said to my uncle afterwards. I was seven/eight yr old at the time. I did not know the meanings of the ords that were chanted. I had to ask my uncle.

[Oracle]

While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.

Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?

You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.

Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.

You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.

Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?

EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

Go figure sick baby eater!

EOKA were fighting for union with Greece

You have to interpret history in Context. Even if the propaganda now wishes to extrapolate merely on Enosis; the overriding element at the time was a fight against the Colonialist oppressors and so it was a fight for freedom.

[denizaksulu]

While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.

Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?

You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.

Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.

You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.

Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?

EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

Go figure sick baby eater!

EOKA were fighting for union with Greece

You have to interpret history in Context. Even if the propaganda now wishes to extrapolate merely on Enosis; the overriding element at the time was a fight against the Colonialist oppressors and so it was a fight for freedom.

....but when you see the Greeks of Cyprus agitating againstthe British, and a few irresponsible people will chant 'Enosis' how did you expect the Turks of Cyprus to interpret this. It would be very easy to 2 + 2 = 5. I saw a few anti-British demonstrations and these seemed always well orchestrated actions, banners and all calling for ENOSIS and EOKA.

[Oracle]

EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

EOKA were fighting for union with Greece

You have to interpret history in Context. Even if the propaganda now wishes to extrapolate merely on Enosis; the overriding element at the time was a fight against the Colonialist oppressors and so it was a fight for freedom.

....but when you see the Greeks of Cyprus agitating againstthe British, and a few irresponsible people will chant 'Enosis' how did you expect the Turks of Cyprus to interpret this. It would be very easy to 2 + 2 = 5. I saw a few anti-British demonstrations and these seemed always well orchestrated actions, banners and all calling for ENOSIS and EOKA.

All that you are saying is that the TCs preferred oppression under the Colonialist British rather than freedom under the Greeks, and were willing to thwart the attempts of the majority to fight for freedom for the Island.

[denizaksulu]

EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

EOKA were fighting for union with Greece

You have to interpret history in Context. Even if the propaganda now wishes to extrapolate merely on Enosis; the overriding element at the time was a fight against the Colonialist oppressors and so it was a fight for freedom.

....but when you see the Greeks of Cyprus agitating againstthe British, and a few irresponsible people will chant 'Enosis' how did you expect the Turks of Cyprus to interpret this. It would be very easy to 2 + 2 = 5. I saw a few anti-British demonstrations and these seemed always well orchestrated actions, banners and all calling for ENOSIS and EOKA.

All that you are saying is that the TCs preferred oppression under the Colonialist British rather than freedom under the Greeks, and were willing to thwart the attempts of the majority to fight for freedom for the Island.

Put like that, they must have seen that remaining loyal to the British ensured that Enosis did not happen. I think it was Selwyn Lloyd who said something like that in 1958.

[yialousa1971]

Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?

Answer my question Turk, most of what you Turks claim are lies.

[observer]

Oracle wrote:

All that you are saying is that the TCs preferred oppression under the Colonialist British rather than freedom under the Greeks, and were willing to thwart the attempts of the majority to fight for freedom for the Island.

Or, to put it another way, they preferred oppression (relatively benign) under the British to freedom, Greek style, like the Turks in Crete some 30 years previously (where are they now?) and the freedom enjoyed by Turks in Greece at the time.

It is important to put these things in their historical context.