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The Common Labour Struggles of Greek and Turkish Cypriots

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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:58 pm

Viewpoint the sicko is back ...
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:14 pm

Oracle wrote:From GR!'s first link ....

Even after separate Turkish-Cypriot Unions were established in 1944, many Turkish-Cypriot workers refused to leave the unions to which their Greek-Cypriot fellow workers belonged, despite the pressures exerted on them by Turkish - Cypriot nationalists


Now why would they choose this time of greatest weakness (near the end of the war, with loss of life and more volunteers leaving) to set up, the first break-away Trade Unions?

PEO had 2000 Turkish-Cypriot members, a number equal to those belonging to Turkish-Cypriot unions.


That was a 50% split wanting to segregate themselves away from the GCs ...

Was this the first real sign the TCs wanted their own Administration?



Wronggggggggggggg!!!

If you read the whole link, you would have seen the disquite among some TC union members regarding the Unions support for Enosis. There was no way they would support Enosis. Remember a year or more so ago, this topic had come up. They feared blosk voting support for Enosis.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?


You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.


Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.


You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:42 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?


You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.


Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.


You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.


Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?


You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.


Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.


You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.


Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?


EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

Go figure sick baby eater!
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:From GR!'s first link ....

Even after separate Turkish-Cypriot Unions were established in 1944, many Turkish-Cypriot workers refused to leave the unions to which their Greek-Cypriot fellow workers belonged, despite the pressures exerted on them by Turkish - Cypriot nationalists


Now why would they choose this time of greatest weakness (near the end of the war, with loss of life and more volunteers leaving) to set up, the first break-away Trade Unions?

PEO had 2000 Turkish-Cypriot members, a number equal to those belonging to Turkish-Cypriot unions.


That was a 50% split wanting to segregate themselves away from the GCs ...

Was this the first real sign the TCs wanted their own Administration?



Wronggggggggggggg!!!

If you read the whole link, you would have seen the disquite among some TC union members regarding the Unions support for Enosis. There was no way they would support Enosis. Remember a year or more so ago, this topic had come up. They feared blosk voting support for Enosis.


This reference is for 1944 ....
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Postby ahristos » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:07 am

british have trap greeks,,, i
they had promise to give cyprus
in 1915
like heptanese in 1864
britain have give heptanesia
because the new king was
relative to british king and usealess to them any more
but cyprus had strategic position
cypriots had follow cretans example
but they had one problem uk was superpower at that time
osmans not i mean in 1878
so they was following cretans steps naturally
uk has promise 2 times unification with greece
1915 and 1941 litle time before germans entry in greece
even british had send armed cypriots in greece and crete
against germans british new whow to play with greeks well
at that time and what works well to greeks
they had play a dirty game finally against all cyprus population
generally and today they have those 2 bases in island
this is the cauntry who has even today colonies in EUROPE
GIBRALTAR AND N IRELAND
THAT IS REDICULUS FOR ME
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:51 am

ahristos wrote:british have trap greeks,,, i
they had promise to give cyprus
in 1915
like heptanese in 1864
britain have give heptanesia
because the new king was
relative to british king and usealess to them any more
but cyprus had strategic position
cypriots had follow cretans example
but they had one problem uk was superpower at that time
osmans not i mean in 1878
so they was following cretans steps naturally
uk has promise 2 times unification with greece
1915 and 1941 litle time before germans entry in greece
even british had send armed cypriots in greece and crete
against germans british new whow to play with greeks well
at that time and what works well to greeks
they had play a dirty game finally against all cyprus population
generally and today they have those 2 bases in island
this is the cauntry who has even today colonies in EUROPE
GIBRALTAR AND N IRELAND
THAT IS REDICULUS FOR ME



Life's a bitch aye!!


Apologies to Cypriot beaches. :lol:
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Postby observer » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:55 am

Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


Was that the same democracy and human rights you dished out during 1963 and 1974?


You and the British did not allow democracy and human rights. On the contrary you forced a system which was based on segregation and racist discrimination, which naturally failed.


Only because you held a gun to my head, burnt down my home, discriminated against us and kidnapped and killed us....safety in numbers ever heard of that? Do you think we wanted to live in squaller, people will think that it was Butlins and you were the blue coats dishing out positive democracy...far from it you made our lives hell on earth. Time you admitted that your actions were the cause of todays division but you are so blind that your mindset will ensure this island is divided for many more years to come.


You should put your fairy tales to paper and then it can be put in a libary in the fiction section.

Heres some examples of your fellow Turks attacking other Turks:-

Some TMT attacks against Turkish Cypriots, May-July, 1958



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- 22.5.58: Murder attempt against Ahmet Sadi, Director of the Turkish Office of the Pancyprian Workers Federation. In order to save his life, Sadi left Cyprus soon after and settled in England.

- 24.5.48: Murder of Fazil Onder, Chief Editor of the weekly newspaper "Inkilapci".

- 29.5.58: Murder of Ahmet Yahya, committee member of the progressive Turkish Cypriot Athletic-Cultural Centre.

- 5.6.58: Murder attempt against Hasan Ali, member of a Construction Workers Committee of the Pancyprian Labour Federation.

- 30.6.58: Murder of Ahmet Ibrahim, a barber from Limassol, because he had friendly relations with Greek-Cypriots and expressed himself in favour of Greek-Turkish cooperation.

- 3.7.58: Murder attempt against Arif Hulusi Barudi. He was working in a business owned by a Greek Cypriot. Before the attempt he had received a threatening letter demanding that he leave his job.


Have you got a list of the GCs killed by eoka terrorists and the Greek coupists?


EOKA were fighting for Freedom for Cyprus.

TMT were fighting to prevent it.

Go figure sick baby eater!


EOKA were fighting for union with Greece
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:08 pm

Some people seem not to know what EOKA were fighting for. They try to re-write history.

Eye witness account: April 1956

One hot day in front of the CYTA offices, next to the Turkish primary school, fighting erupted between the British army and Greek Gymnasium students and other youth who were chanting E....E...EOKA and ZHTO ENOSIS slogans. Young men were throwing stones at the army patrols. The soldiers used tear gas to disperse the clamouring crowd as a result the nearby school was shut down and the children sent home.

Reported by: A very young DA :lol:
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