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The Common Labour Struggles of Greek and Turkish Cypriots

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Postby Piratis » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:55 pm

74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


:shock: Try telling that to the remainder of my relatives of Sandallar village. And Murataga. And Attlilar as well.


Are you talking about the approximately 200 people who were killed during the war you started and while you were killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots?

I said Greek Cypriots will not seek revenge for things that happened in the past. I didn't say that they will not fight back while they are attacked. On the contrary I said: "are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights".
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Re: The Common Labour Struggles of Greek and Turkish Cypriot

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I had a look at it some time ago with reference to the Limni mine and did not think it was so fantastic.

Without spending time going over it again in detail; I think it was because I got the impression too much emphasis was placed on the input by TCs without making reference to the fact that GCs were, on the whole, away, otherwise engaged fighting for freedom for Britain and against the Nazis ... whilst the TCs, relatively unburdened, were left in Cyprus making hay whilst the sun shone ...

Strange comment Oracle… :?

This site covers labour events starting from 1925 and right up to 1974; a span of 49 years, so what’s WWII got to do with it?

Anyway, here’s a link to set a record straight since you brought up WWII...

http://www.cyprusveterans.com.cy/contributionww2.php


Duh! Isn't that the period WWII was enacted? :?

I didn't realise I would have to spell it out for someone as sharp as you. :lol:

The reduction in the GC male workforce at that time (they went off to fight in WWII), meant the TCs had a more prominent role in Cyprus ... which perhaps they used to their advantage. This bias in the demographic dynamics was not adequately covered by this site and from a historical point of view that was a severe weakness which made the site redundant IMHO.

Anyway, maybe I'll have a closer look when all those other Google temptations have been exhausted.....



Kindly refrain from making inane comments Oracle. It is becoming habitual. Check the 'Roll of Honour ' of those Cypriots killed in action. I would say they are a faire representation of the population in proportion to their numbers. You dont know when to stop oh Boumbolina.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:08 pm

:wink:

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Postby 74LB » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:09 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Very touching. Especially where Turkish Cypriots shed their blood together with their Greek Cypriot neighbours. A slap in the face of thos 'ignorami' who would not believe that they would do such a thing.

Real Cypriots, all of them.

The TMT did the real damage.

Thanks for the post GR.


My thanks to GR as well. A very good account of the two communities working together through thick & thin.

:( How sad it is that that we have ended up todays situation.
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Postby 74LB » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:14 pm

Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


:shock: Try telling that to the remainder of my relatives of Sandallar village. And Murataga. And Attlilar as well.


Are you talking about the approximately 200 people who were killed during the war you started and while you were killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots?

I said Greek Cypriots will not seek revenge for things that happened in the past. I didn't say that they will not fight back while they are attacked. On the contrary I said: "are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights".


Go ahead, justify yourself that these people were killed while they attacked you. You're insane :twisted: .
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:31 pm

74LB wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Very touching. Especially where Turkish Cypriots shed their blood together with their Greek Cypriot neighbours. A slap in the face of thos 'ignorami' who would not believe that they would do such a thing.

Real Cypriots, all of them.

The TMT did the real damage.

Thanks for the post GR.


My thanks to GR as well. A very good account of the two communities working together through thick & thin.

:( How sad it is that that we have ended up todays situation.



It need not be, but it seems there are many who wish to split us.
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
74LB wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Very touching. Especially where Turkish Cypriots shed their blood together with their Greek Cypriot neighbours. A slap in the face of thos 'ignorami' who would not believe that they would do such a thing.

Real Cypriots, all of them.

The TMT did the real damage.

Thanks for the post GR.


My thanks to GR as well. A very good account of the two communities working together through thick & thin.

:( How sad it is that that we have ended up todays situation.



It need not be, but it seems there are many who wish to split us.


Who are they Deniz .... wishing to split us .....give us more lights about spliting us and how it was achived ?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:49 pm

Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:While the brutal Ottoman rule had ended just a couple of decades earlier, the Greek Cypriots did not seek any revenge against the TCs, but on the contrary they cooperated more and more with them (although the British did not exactly encourage this).

The hostilities between the two communities restarted only when the TCs started to cooperate again with the foreign Imperialists (UK/Turkey) in order to regain Ottoman style privileges for themselves on the expense of all other Cypriots.

The historical facts show that the Cypriot people are forgiving people and do not seek revenge for things that happened in the past, but are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights.


:shock: Try telling that to the remainder of my relatives of Sandallar village. And Murataga. And Attlilar as well.


Are you talking about the approximately 200 people who were killed during the war you started and while you were killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots?

I said Greek Cypriots will not seek revenge for things that happened in the past. I didn't say that they will not fight back while they are attacked. On the contrary I said: "are also people who appreciate democracy and human rights and are always willing to fight against those who are trying to deprive them from these rights".


One of the victims of these massacres was a 16 day old baby. How can a 16 day old baby attack anybody?
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:56 pm

i wrote on google '' how cyprus was divided'' very interesting results. may be not interesting at all .... they all depends who wrote it and what for wrote it .

Why is Cyprus divided?

In July 1974 a group of Cypriots who wanted the island to become part of Greece tried to kill the president and take over Cyprus.

Five days later Turkish troops landed in Northern Cyprus. They said they had come to protect the Turkish-Cypriots, who didn't want to join with Greece.

The attempted takeover didn't work and the president escaped.

The Turkish soldiers stayed and occupied a third of the island. That set up Cyprus as the divided country it is today.

The Green Line

2400 soldiers from the United Nations (UN) patrol the boundary between Northern and Southern Cyprus.

This is called the Green Line and it separates the two communities.


The UN peacekeeping mission in Cyprus started in 1964 as there had been trouble between Turkish and Greek-Cypriots before the Turkish troops arrived.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/find_ ... 031897.stm
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:58 pm

is it basic as above ?
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