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[The Cypriot]

The fact is the eastern Roman empire saw itself as Roman - not Greek. Its people saw themselves as Romans - not Greeks. Likewise, the western Roman empire, which also saw itself and its people as Roman, not and never 'Italian'.

In the west they spoke Latin, from which Italian (and other Romance languages) evolved. In the east they spoke Koine from which modern standard Greek (and the Cypriot, Cretan and other idioms) evolved.

Nationalist elements within both of these the two modern nation states, Greece and Italy, have chosen to attach themselves to and identify with the glories of these two former ancient empires – many hundreds of years after the event – in a bid to create a mythology with which to inspire and bind their repective peoples, as part of deluded expansionist aims.

"I believe in Rome, the Eternal, the mother of my country. I believe in the genius of Mussolini and in the resurrection of the Empire."
Creed of the Balilla, youth movement, Fascist Italy.

Mussolini's Fascist movement was eventually to bring destruction and humiliation to Italy. Greece's nationalist movement, during the military dictatorship, did likewise to Greece in the period to 1974. It also destroyed Cyprus and its people suffer to this day.

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Hello little Miltiades.

Is that all you've got to say, little man?

[Oracle]

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Thank you Turk!

Nicosia Byzantine Museum

[The Cypriot]

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Thank you Turk!

Nicosia Byzantine Museum

I'm NOT a Turk. Why are you saying I am?

[Oracle]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

No GR, your argument is feeble. Those people who were born in Britain, from a long line of British people, and their mother tongue is one of the British tongues (let's keep it simple, so you can follow, say "English") etc, are certainly British. Again you are deliberately missing the point - unless you are trying to tell us that Palaeologus was using Greek as a foreign language - is that your point, GR?

The point is that Greek was being used as a communication tool by a wide range of people in those days (in conjunction with other languages) just as English is popular today when it comes to formalities and being used as a communication tool by many non Brits!

Throughout the ages you’ll find that one language among the many would emerge as dominant just as English is dominant/popular today but that doesn’t mean it gives us an indication of a speaker’s country of origin!

Why do you think English became the dominant language?

DT.

I really think you have him stumped ...

[Oracle]

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Thank you Turk!

Nicosia Byzantine Museum

I'm NOT a Turk. Why are you saying I am?

Because you share the same sentiments ... and that is an important indicator.

[The Cypriot]

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Thank you Turk!

Nicosia Byzantine Museum

I'm NOT a Turk. Why are you saying I am?

Because you share the same sentiments ... and that is an important indicator.

What are you talking about?

[yialousa1971]

The fact is the eastern Roman empire saw itself as Roman - not Greek. Its people saw themselves as Romans - not Greeks. Likewise, the western Roman empire, which also saw itself and its people as Roman, not and never 'Italian'.

In the west they spoke Latin, from which Italian (and other Romance languages) evolved. In the east they spoke Koine from which modern standard Greek (and the Cypriot, Cretan and other idioms) evolved.

Nationalist elements within both of these the two modern nation states, Greece and Italy, have chosen to attach themselves to and identify with the glories of these two former ancient empires – many hundreds of years after the event – in a bid to create a mythology with which to inspire and bind their repective peoples, as part of deluded expansionist aims.

"I believe in Rome, the Eternal, the mother of my country. I believe in the genius of Mussolini and in the resurrection of the Empire."
Creed of the Balilla, youth movement, Fascist Italy.

Mussolini's Fascist movement was eventually to bring destruction and humiliation to Italy. Greece's nationalist movement, during the military dictatorship, did likewise to Greece in the period to 1974. It also destroyed Cyprus and its people suffer to this day.

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Hello little Miltiades.

Is that all you've got to say, little man?

Just read what I said to GR if you want to learn, big man.

[The Cypriot]

I have read what you said. Did you read what I said? Why don't you address it?

[Oracle]

So fcuk your glorious Byzantine Empire!

Thank you Turk!

Nicosia Byzantine Museum

I'm NOT a Turk. Why are you saying I am?

Because you share the same sentiments ... and that is an important indicator.

What are you talking about?

If you want to fuck the Byzantine Empire ... you are like the Turks who are fucking the remnants of the Byzantine Empire ... our Precious antiquities in the north ...

Shame on you "The Cypriot"

[yialousa1971]

I have read what you said. Did you read what I said? Why don't you address it?

There is nothing to address, the empire was Greek. Prove it wasn't, the language/culture/people and most emperors were Greek. It's simple isn't it, why so anti Hellenic?