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[EPSILON]

A war is approaching Hellenism, and this war will be like none before it.

What's this got to do with the CyProb section and when does hellenism plan to croak so I can attend the funeral?

according the the original article Cyprus is part of Greater Greece - go figure!

This “Greater Greece” must be the greatest mythological accomplishment…

Never heard of the Hellenistic period and then the Byzantium empire.

I have but the Byzantium empire was Roman!

Of course, in the make-believe world of mythology you can name any empire you like as "Hellenic"... even the Ottoman so go for your life!

Your complex against anything Hellenic makes you to understand history in your own ay. Byzantium started ofcourse as Roman but pls reread the history afterwards.You have to study again /

The word “Hellenic” did not even exist until around the 1820s when it was invented, so the notion that the Byzantium Empire was “Hellenic” is as daft as the deceiving clowns who came up with this hoax and the stupid modern Greeks who adopted such manufactured rubbish.

OH!!!And i was with the impression that Hellenic World is going back to 3000bc. As i told you fanatics are everywhere and leftists proved to be worst and more easily guided by their leaders.Personally I am not so favor with Byzantium since i consider this period as the disaster of ancient Greek culture and civilization. This is one thing to discuss but to say Byzantium was not related to Greeks is a darkness theory.

[yialousa1971]

My little uneducated friend the empire was Greek as the language used was Greek. Most emperors were Greek as well but some were Armenian also.

And you want to call others uneducated after coming up with this little gem?

In line with your clever methodology, here’s my selection of rulers for Athens (1458-1833)

Piri Muslima..................................1754-1755
Haci Ahmed Aga................................1755-1756
Hüseyin Aga Salibe-oghlu...........................1757
Hüseyin Efendi.....................................1758
Tzistorakis........................................1759
Halil Aga.....................................1760-1762
Mehmed Aga Kycanos............................1763-1764
Abdi Beg......................................1765-1766
Gazi Apan Aga.................................1767-1769
Gazi Hüseyin Aga...................................1771
Haci Halil Aga.....................................1772
Mushi Beg..........................................1773
Gelilci Mehmed Aga.................................1774
Haci Ali Aga Haseki................................1775
Asan Aga...........................................1776
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (restored)................1777-1779
Ibrahim Aga...................................1779–1781
Haci Kata Mustafa Aga.........................1781–1782
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (re-restored).............1783–1785
Kata Mustafa (restored)............................1786
Selihtar Aga..................................1786–1788
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (re-re-restored)..........1789-1792
Ibrahim Efendi................................1792-1794
Mullah Qadir..................................1794–1795
Süleyman Aga..................................1795–1796
Haci Emin Efendi..............................1797-1798
Haci Hüseyin Efendi...........................1799-1800
Ali Pasha.....................................1800-1821

You like?

Now tell us...

What was the official language of Athens during these 400 odd years?

Next idiot please...

You truly are the most stupid person, those things you posted were not emperors of Byzantium. Byzantium fell in 1453, it ceased to exist as it was occuppied by the Mongol Turks. Keep digging, the hole gets deeper and less chance of you getting out. Still I haven't given up yet in your education, heres that link again:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/english.html

this time read and learn so you don't show yourself up again.

[Get Real!]

So, do we still have anyone out there unclear that what is today called the “Byzantium Empire” was in fact the Eastern Roman Empire?

"Byzantine Empire, eastern part of the Roman Empire, which survived after the breakup of the Western Empire in the 5th century ad. Its capital was Constantinople (now İstanbul, Turkey). "

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 ... mpire.html


"Eastern Roman Empire Compared to the West - Why the Byzantines Succeeded in Preserving the Culture of Rome"

http://roman-history.suite101.com/artic ... o_the_west


"Byzantine Art - Grandeur in the Art History of Eastern Roman Empire"
http://ezinearticles.com/?Byzantine-Art ... id=2059354

Have we all started to realize yet that Greece has a set of history books while the rest of the world has another?

[Get Real!]

You truly are the most stupid person, those things you posted were not emperors of Byzantium. Byzantium fell in 1453, it ceased to exist as it was occuppied by the Mongol Turks. Keep digging, the hole gets deeper and less chance of you getting out. Still I haven't given up yet in your education, heres that link again:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/english.html

this time read and learn so you don't show yourself up again.

How did you miss the "rulers for Athens"... selective reading by any chance?

No problemo, there's a new post on the subject to help you grind your teeth better...

[EPSILON]

So, do we still have anyone out there unclear that what is today called the “Byzantium Empire” was in fact the Eastern Roman Empire?

"Byzantine Empire, eastern part of the Roman Empire, which survived after the breakup of the Western Empire in the 5th century ad. Its capital was Constantinople (now İstanbul, Turkey). "

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 ... mpire.html


"Eastern Roman Empire Compared to the West - Why the Byzantines Succeeded in Preserving the Culture of Rome"


http://roman-history.suite101.com/artic ... o_the_west


"Byzantine Art - Grandeur in the Art History of Eastern Roman Empire"
http://ezinearticles.com/?Byzantine-Art ... id=2059354

Have we all started to realize yet that Greece has a set of history books while the rest of the world has another?

Well i hope there will be not any stupid to response to you in this certain post.You born just to hear but never learn.Next time my friend- lieve it to your next life period, do nt try more, is rather enough for you.

[Get Real!]

Well i hope there will be not any stupid to response to you in this certain post.You born just to hear but never learn.Next time my friend- lieve it to your next life period, do nt try more, is rather enough for you.

Your post is one of the finest examples of Greek expression! Now if only I can get a translator I might even understand it…

[Oracle]

For a brief moment I thought perhaps GR! would come up with something worthwhile.

But unfortunately that niggling doubt that he is just a Choirokitian caveman, exempt from scholastic matters was proved to be right.

GR! ... In simple terms so that perhaps even you could understand ...

The Byzantine Empire was a duality of East and West (hence the two headed eagle) of co-operation between the Romans and the Greeks.

They split eventually, because of Papal dissent, and became the Eastern or Greek Byzantine Empire, and the Western or Roman Empire.

I shall not waste any more time with you, because you clearly have trouble understanding historical contexts ..... and judge everything by your "virtual" www. computer world ....

You serve to make thickos like kentish, VP, YFred etc. appear at least receptive ....

[Oracle]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

No GR, your argument is feeble. Those people who were born in Britain, from a long line of British people, and their mother tongue is one of the British tongues (let's keep it simple, so you can follow, say "English") etc, are certainly British. Again you are deliberately missing the point - unless you are trying to tell us that Palaeologus was using Greek as a foreign language - is that your point, GR?

The point is that Greek was being used as a communication tool by a wide range of people in those days (in conjunction with other languages) just as English is popular today when it comes to formalities and being used as a communication tool by many non Brits!

Throughout the ages you’ll find that one language among the many would emerge as dominant just as English is dominant/popular today but that doesn’t mean it gives us an indication of a speaker’s country of origin!

Why do you think English became the dominant language?

DT. You are assuming GR! can be logical ....

Of course he will fight to the death that the (Mythical) Greek Empire had Chinese as the dominant language ...

[Get Real!]

The Byzantine Empire was a duality of East and West (hence the two headed eagle) of co-operation between the Romans and the Greeks.

Woman, quit reading Greek mythology books!

The head on the left (West) symbolizes Rome, the head on the right (East) symbolizes Constantinople.

They were the TWO Roman empires. Nothing to do with Greece or Greeks!

[yialousa1971]

You truly are the most stupid person, those things you posted were not emperors of Byzantium. Byzantium fell in 1453, it ceased to exist as it was occuppied by the Mongol Turks. Keep digging, the hole gets deeper and less chance of you getting out. Still I haven't given up yet in your education, heres that link again:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/english.html

this time read and learn so you don't show yourself up again.

How did you miss the "rulers for Athens"... selective reading by any chance?

No problemo, there's a new post on the subject to help you grind your teeth better...

Clearly you didn't understand what I posted (too stupid or just can't read), the Byzantine empire had fallen in 1453 so it ceased to exist so those Mongols were not rulers of Byzantium.

You can post as many links as you want but they only show your ignorance. This is taken from one you just posted:-

Byzantine Empire, eastern part of the Roman Empire, which survived after the breakup of the Western Empire in the 5th century ad. Its capital was Constantinople (now İstanbul, Turkey).

Constantinople became a capital of the Roman Empire in 330 after Constantine the Great, the first Christian emperor, refounded the city of Byzantium and named it after himself. Only gradually did it develop into the true capital of the eastern Roman provinces—those areas of the empire in southeastern Europe, southwestern Asia, and the northeast corner of Africa, which included the present-day countries of the Balkan Peninsula, and Syria, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Cyprus, Egypt, and the eastern part of Libya. Scholars have called the empire Byzantine after the ancient name of its capital, Byzantium, or the Eastern Roman Empire, but to contemporaries and in official terminology of the time, it was simply Roman, and its subjects were Romans (Rhomaioi). Its predominant language was Greek, although some of its subjects spoke Latin, Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, and other local languages during its long (330-1453) history. Its emperors regarded the one-time geographical limits of the Roman Empire as theirs, and they looked to Rome for their traditions, symbols, and institutions. The empire, ruled by an emperor (basileus) without any formal constitution, slowly formed a synthesis of late Roman institutions, orthodox Christianity, and Greek language and culture.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761561530/Byzantine_Empire.html

Read what I high lighted, most of the inhabitants were Greek and their language/culture was Greek.