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[Get Real!]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

[YFred]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

Only if they have the correct accent and a handkerchief for a hat old boy?

[Oracle]

Now bugger off!

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[Hatter]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

No GR, your argument is feeble. Those people who were born in Britain, from a long line of British people, and their mother tongue is one of the British tongues (let's keep it simple, so you can follow, say "English") etc, are certainly British. Again you are deliberately missing the point - unless you are trying to tell us that Palaeologus was using Greek as a foreign language - is that your point, GR?

[yialousa1971]

A war is approaching Hellenism, and this war will be like none before it.

What's this got to do with the CyProb section and when does hellenism plan to croak so I can attend the funeral?

according the the original article Cyprus is part of Greater Greece - go figure!

This “Greater Greece” must be the greatest mythological accomplishment…

Never heard of the Hellenistic period and then the Byzantium empire.

I have but the Byzantium empire was Roman!

Of course, in the make-believe world of mythology you can name any empire you like as "Hellenic"... even the Ottoman so go for your life!

My little uneducated friend the empire was Greek as the language used was Greek. Most emperors were Greek as well but some were Armenian also.

From a link (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/byzantium/) taken from your second link:-

Byzantium is the name given to both the state and the culture of the Eastern Roman Empire in the middle ages. Both the state and the inhabitants always called themselves Roman, as did most of their neighbors. Western Europeans, who had their own Roman Empire called them Orientals or Greeks, and later following the example of the great French scholar DuCange, Byzantines after the former name of the Empire's capital city, Constantinople.

So how is it not a Greek empire when most of the population/emperors were Greek. Remember also southern Italy/Sicily was also Greek.

Here is a nice link http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/english.html to improve your understanding.

[Hatter]

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So how is it not a Greek empire when most of the population/emperors were Greek. Remember also southern Italy/Sicily was also Greek.
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As was Asia Minor, Cyprus, etc.

[yialousa1971]

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So how is it not a Greek empire when most of the population/emperors were Greek. Remember also southern Italy/Sicily was also Greek.
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As was Asia Minor, Cyprus, etc.

Yes exactly

[Get Real!]

My little uneducated friend the empire was Greek as the language used was Greek. Most emperors were Greek as well but some were Armenian also.

And you want to call others uneducated after coming up with this little gem?

In line with your clever methodology, here’s my selection of rulers for Athens (1458-1833)

Piri Muslima..................................1754-1755
Haci Ahmed Aga................................1755-1756
Hüseyin Aga Salibe-oghlu...........................1757
Hüseyin Efendi.....................................1758
Tzistorakis........................................1759
Halil Aga.....................................1760-1762
Mehmed Aga Kycanos............................1763-1764
Abdi Beg......................................1765-1766
Gazi Apan Aga.................................1767-1769
Gazi Hüseyin Aga...................................1771
Haci Halil Aga.....................................1772
Mushi Beg..........................................1773
Gelilci Mehmed Aga.................................1774
Haci Ali Aga Haseki................................1775
Asan Aga...........................................1776
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (restored)................1777-1779
Ibrahim Aga...................................1779–1781
Haci Kata Mustafa Aga.........................1781–1782
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (re-restored).............1783–1785
Kata Mustafa (restored)............................1786
Selihtar Aga..................................1786–1788
Haci Ali Aga Haseki (re-re-restored)..........1789-1792
Ibrahim Efendi................................1792-1794
Mullah Qadir..................................1794–1795
Süleyman Aga..................................1795–1796
Haci Emin Efendi..............................1797-1798
Haci Hüseyin Efendi...........................1799-1800
Ali Pasha.....................................1800-1821

You like?

Now tell us...

What was the official language of Athens during these 400 odd years?

Next idiot please...

[Get Real!]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

No GR, your argument is feeble. Those people who were born in Britain, from a long line of British people, and their mother tongue is one of the British tongues (let's keep it simple, so you can follow, say "English") etc, are certainly British. Again you are deliberately missing the point - unless you are trying to tell us that Palaeologus was using Greek as a foreign language - is that your point, GR?

The point is that Greek was being used as a communication tool by a wide range of people in those days (in conjunction with other languages) just as English is popular today when it comes to formalities and being used as a communication tool by many non Brits!

Throughout the ages you’ll find that one language among the many would emerge as dominant just as English is dominant/popular today but that doesn’t mean it gives us an indication of a speaker’s country of origin!

[DT.]

You are deliberately missing the point, GR. Was your koumbaro born in china and/or had chinese as his mother tongue? Are all the church hymns/psalms of his Church written in chinese? Is the lingua franca of his home country chinese? Is the labguage of his home country chinese? Really GR, you can do better than that!

Many people around the world speak English but are they necessarily British? Your argument is feeble...

No GR, your argument is feeble. Those people who were born in Britain, from a long line of British people, and their mother tongue is one of the British tongues (let's keep it simple, so you can follow, say "English") etc, are certainly British. Again you are deliberately missing the point - unless you are trying to tell us that Palaeologus was using Greek as a foreign language - is that your point, GR?

The point is that Greek was being used as a communication tool by a wide range of people in those days (in conjunction with other languages) just as English is popular today when it comes to formalities and being used as a communication tool by many non Brits!

Throughout the ages you’ll find that one language among the many would emerge as dominant just as English is dominant/popular today but that doesn’t mean it gives us an indication of a speaker’s country of origin!

Why do you think English became the dominant language?