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[The Cypriot]

Cypriots on the island who patronise Cypriots who aren't.

And how would you refer to cypriots who are not on the island who try to patronise cypriots who are?

Non-islanders? I don't know. You've lost me.

Hatter. Are you implying that it is I who is being patronising? Please get to point. If you are, say so, and say why.

[Hatter]

Cypriots on the island who patronise Cypriots who aren't.

And how would you refer to cypriots who are not on the island who try to patronise cypriots who are?

Non-islanders? I don't know. You've lost me.

And cypriots who are sometimes on the island and sometimes not?

Presumably you consider DT as an islander. What did you find patronising in his post?

[The Cypriot]

Presumably you consider DT as an islander. What did you find patronising in his post?

Jesus, even my nine year old nephew would know what was patronising about DT's post. What is this?

[Hatter]

Presumably you consider DT as an islander. What did you find patronising in his post?

Jesus, even my nine year old nephew would know what was patronising about DT's post. What is this?

You are now using the same kind of response as DT did earlier - which you considered patronising. Imitation the highest form of flattery?

[The Cypriot]

Presumably you consider DT as an islander. What did you find patronising in his post?

Jesus, even my nine year old nephew would know what was patronising about DT's post. What is this?

You are now using the same kind of response as DT did earlier - which you considered patronising. Imitation the highest form of flattery?

My response to you was ironic rather than patronising. Now, this is getting tedious in the extreme. What point are you trying to make?

[DT.]

GR has just finished telling us that the Holy Roman Empire that looked both to the East and the West presumably when looking Eastwards was looking to Singapore and not Greece and Asia Minor

[DT.]

My nephew is 9 and he knows that the junta had agreed to partition Cyprus with Turkey. I doubt many on the island believe otherwise.

God you islanders can be so patronising. Can I have some links please? It's not that I don't believe you but I'd like to verify your claim. I doubt they'd have articulated this sentiment officially.

You're trying to tell me that splitting an 82% Greek populated island into 2 and sharing it with Turkey is expansionist?

I'm not trying to tell you. I am telling you.
Given that Cyprus was an independent country having Greece rule it – even if only a percentage of it – would mean an expansion.

“The coup of the Greek junta is an invasion, and from its consequences the whole people of Cyprus suffers, both Greeks and Turks.”—Makarios, July 19, 1974, UN Security Council

Here's an editorial for you. If you require more facts then I suggest you spend more time in Cyprus. This is by no means patronising but you get a different 1st hand perspective when the kids you went to school with had parents which are now historical and critical figures in the history of Cyprus. These parents never had any issues on telling us first hand why some decisions were made and more importantly why most mistakes were made.

Everyone went to school, goes to work and has coffee with someone that was involved with the coup, the invasion, eoka...A memory about the fanatic eoka B Greek sergeant that was suicidal against his troops, the memory about the high ranking Greek officer that expected a meeting with the Turkish landing officer as soon as they touched down in Cyprus...(probably still waiting for that meeting)

Its one of the perks of growing up on this backward island I guess, you know what you're talking about and you're directly involved with the people that created the islands history.

On the other hand if you don't live here then may I suggest you take a leaf out of Nikitas's book who uses an excellent combination of personal experience and well-researched facts to back up all his points. His posts have always been to the point and difficult to argue against due to his grasp of the facts,

You're not on this forum to simply argue and post old Cypriot anecdotes. When faced with the opportunity to learn something try not to react in such a negative manner. En gnosin pou prospathoumen na se taisoumen...oi skata.

The junta's response to Makarios' letter of 2 July was the coup. The coup's main objective was the murder of Makarios and the installation of a regime that would implement the long-established US-inspired Acheson plan to partition Cyprus between Greece and Turkey, who would then turn the island into an anti-communist NATO protectorate.

Of course, what happened was that Makarios survived the coup, Greek Cypriots resisted the junta and the Americans double-crossed their lackeys in Athens, having reassured them initially that any coup against Makarios would not be countered by an invasion from the Turks – who, the junta was led to believe by the Americans, understood that the coup was an internal Greek matter and were content that the junta would soon satisfy their demands for some form of partition of Cyprus, with maybe Kastelorizo thrown in for good measure.

The junta, having failed to deliver its end of the bargain to the Americans – i.e. Makarios' head and a Cypriot puppet leader with some legitimacy on the island and internationally (someone like Glafkos Clerides and not the man the junta eventually plumped for, the notorious EOKA B gangster Nikos Sampson, who the Americans, nevertheless, began the process of recognising as Cyprus' legitimate head of state) – quickly found itself abandoned by its Washington sponsors, who turned to backing the Turkish horse; the Turks having found themselves quite unexpectedly in a position to impose partition on Cyprus on their own terms

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/20 ... chive.html

[The Cypriot]

Here's an editorial for you. If you require more facts then I suggest you spend more time in Cyprus. This is by no means patronising but you get a different 1st hand perspective when the kids you went to school with had parents which are now historical and critical figures in the history of Cyprus. These parents never had any issues on telling us first hand why some decisions were made and more importantly why most mistakes were made.

Everyone went to school, goes to work and has coffee with someone that was involved with the coup, the invasion, eoka...A memory about the fanatic eoka B Greek sergeant that was suicidal against his troops, the memory about the high ranking Greek officer that expected a meeting with the Turkish landing officer as soon as they touched down in Cyprus...(probably still waiting for that meeting)

Its one of the perks of growing up on this backward island I guess, you know what you're talking about and you're directly involved with the people that created the islands history.

On the other hand if you don't live here then may I suggest you take a leaf out of Nikitas's book who uses an excellent combination of personal experience and well-researched facts to back up all his points. His posts have always been to the point and difficult to argue against due to his grasp of the facts,

You're not on this forum to simply argue and post old Cypriot anecdotes. When faced with the opportunity to learn something try not to react in such a negative manner. En gnosin pou prospathoumen na se taisoumen...oi skata.

The junta's response to Makarios' letter of 2 July was the coup. The coup's main objective was the murder of Makarios and the installation of a regime that would implement the long-established US-inspired Acheson plan to partition Cyprus between Greece and Turkey, who would then turn the island into an anti-communist NATO protectorate.

Of course, what happened was that Makarios survived the coup, Greek Cypriots resisted the junta and the Americans double-crossed their lackeys in Athens, having reassured them initially that any coup against Makarios would not be countered by an invasion from the Turks – who, the junta was led to believe by the Americans, understood that the coup was an internal Greek matter and were content that the junta would soon satisfy their demands for some form of partition of Cyprus, with maybe Kastelorizo thrown in for good measure.

The junta, having failed to deliver its end of the bargain to the Americans – i.e. Makarios' head and a Cypriot puppet leader with some legitimacy on the island and internationally (someone like Glafkos Clerides and not the man the junta eventually plumped for, the notorious EOKA B gangster Nikos Sampson, who the Americans, nevertheless, began the process of recognising as Cyprus' legitimate head of state) – quickly found itself abandoned by its Washington sponsors, who turned to backing the Turkish horse; the Turks having found themselves quite unexpectedly in a position to impose partition on Cyprus on their own terms

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/20 ... chive.html

Really not sure what your argument is, or how it counters anything I've said on this thread. Nor can I understand why you've posted more of this 'hellenicantidote' blog.

[DT.]

Here's an editorial for you. If you require more facts then I suggest you spend more time in Cyprus. This is by no means patronising but you get a different 1st hand perspective when the kids you went to school with had parents which are now historical and critical figures in the history of Cyprus. These parents never had any issues on telling us first hand why some decisions were made and more importantly why most mistakes were made.

Everyone went to school, goes to work and has coffee with someone that was involved with the coup, the invasion, eoka...A memory about the fanatic eoka B Greek sergeant that was suicidal against his troops, the memory about the high ranking Greek officer that expected a meeting with the Turkish landing officer as soon as they touched down in Cyprus...(probably still waiting for that meeting)

Its one of the perks of growing up on this backward island I guess, you know what you're talking about and you're directly involved with the people that created the islands history.

On the other hand if you don't live here then may I suggest you take a leaf out of Nikitas's book who uses an excellent combination of personal experience and well-researched facts to back up all his points. His posts have always been to the point and difficult to argue against due to his grasp of the facts,

You're not on this forum to simply argue and post old Cypriot anecdotes. When faced with the opportunity to learn something try not to react in such a negative manner. En gnosin pou prospathoumen na se taisoumen...oi skata.

The junta's response to Makarios' letter of 2 July was the coup. The coup's main objective was the murder of Makarios and the installation of a regime that would implement the long-established US-inspired Acheson plan to partition Cyprus between Greece and Turkey, who would then turn the island into an anti-communist NATO protectorate.

Of course, what happened was that Makarios survived the coup, Greek Cypriots resisted the junta and the Americans double-crossed their lackeys in Athens, having reassured them initially that any coup against Makarios would not be countered by an invasion from the Turks – who, the junta was led to believe by the Americans, understood that the coup was an internal Greek matter and were content that the junta would soon satisfy their demands for some form of partition of Cyprus, with maybe Kastelorizo thrown in for good measure.

The junta, having failed to deliver its end of the bargain to the Americans – i.e. Makarios' head and a Cypriot puppet leader with some legitimacy on the island and internationally (someone like Glafkos Clerides and not the man the junta eventually plumped for, the notorious EOKA B gangster Nikos Sampson, who the Americans, nevertheless, began the process of recognising as Cyprus' legitimate head of state) – quickly found itself abandoned by its Washington sponsors, who turned to backing the Turkish horse; the Turks having found themselves quite unexpectedly in a position to impose partition on Cyprus on their own terms

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/20 ... chive.html

Really not sure what your argument is, or how it counters anything I've said on this thread. Nor can I understand why you've posted more of this 'hellenicantidote' blog.

My apologies...lets get back to Απόν ακούει του γονιού , παρα γονιάς τζιμάτε." and Με τον συγγενή σου φάε πιε τζιαι αλίσιι βερίσιι μεν κάμεις ..

There, I promise we won't ever have to talk about something substantial ever again.

[Oracle]

Look at how many countries are using or have used the two-headed eagle yet Oracle and all other Greeks thought that it was a Greek emblem!

The two-headed eagle appears on the coat of arms of the following countries and territories:

Albania (see Coat of arms of Albania)
Armenia (see Coat of arms of Armenia)
Austria-Hungary (historical)
Austria (1934-1938) (see Coat of arms of Austria)
Byzantine Empire (historical)
German Confederation (historical)
Holy Roman Empire (historical)
Montenegro (see Coat of arms of Montenegro)
Republika Srpska (formerly used from 1992 until 2007) in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Russian Federation (see Coat of arms of Russia)
Russian Empire (historical)
Seljuk Empire (historical)
Serbian Empire (historical)
Serbia and Montenegro (historical)
Serbia (see Coat of arms of Serbia)
Kingdom of Yugoslavia (historical)
Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (historical)

And because most Cities round the World have prestigious buildings mimicking Corinthian, Doric, Ionic Columns; then the Columns' design cannot be Greek in origin, by your prepubescent brain ....

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.




The White House construction began in 1792. John Adams became the first president to take residence in the building on November 1, 1800. It was a grand mansion in the neo-classical federal style, with details that echo classical Greek Ionic architecture.

Source:whitehousemuseum.org