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[MicAtCyp]

Here's another story. We were stopped by the Greek policewoman at the border in Agios Demetios (Ay demet). She knew we were driving a car with TRNC plate. She kept saying something in Greek and I replied her in Turkish. Then she realised (!) we cannot speak Greek and switched to English. Can't really understand the mentality of SOME GCs.

Heres the answer to your query Garbitsch. Every GC who goes to the occupied comes back and says "hey there is no problem with communication, everybody there knows Greek".
I went there only once, and I went ONLY to Famagusta and Apostolos Andreas. I found no-one who could speak Greek. I found noone who could even speak understandable English! At some point I was stopped by a group of 6 police (among them a young police woman) not even one of them knew English!

In the meantime I met many TCs in the free areas. I can speak some Turkish. I speak to them in Turkish, they interrupt me and tell me :"Don't speak Turkish we can talk in Greek!!!!". The other day I met some people talking Turkish. Tried to talked to them, they interrupt me and tell me in perfect Greek: We are not TCs we are Pontians from Georgia...

Anyway I posted the above incidents as food for thought.

I have this personal opinion-I may be wrong- that the TCs don't like hearing the GCs talking Turkish to them...

[Murtaza]

we are Pontians from Georgia...

Micatcyp You mean lazs?
Or there were greeks in georgia too? And what are they doing in cyprus

And I think you should just let this langauge think as It goes.
Everybody have to talk to langauge what he want.

[Main_Source]

I dont think there is any race in the current world who can say they have pure blood stretching thousands of years...with the exception of some remote parts of the world (there's a village in India that speaks the same Greek dialect as Alexander the Great and still wear traditional clothes of that era).

On the otherhand, I see this excuse to say that the Greek Cypriots are not Greek very petty and a propaganda trait used by the Turkish government. We are just as Greek as any Greeks from the Greek island or the mainland of Greece. The Greek mainland ahad more or less the same conquerors as the islands did...but you still like to call them Greek.

This argument that Greeks are not really Greek is stupid and just a trick used by foreign powers to belittle the Enosis idea.

[brother]

This argument that Greeks are not really Greek is stupid and just a trick used by foreign powers to belittle the Enosis idea.

Why do you still believe in Enosis?

[Murtaza]

Good question.
It looks like he didnt change his stance much.
Main still enosis?

[Main_Source]

No, I do not believe in Enosis right now and believe the idea is dead in the water. Although, I do theoretically agree with the idea for that time, given the uncertainty of GC and with us STILL being ruled by foreign power. If anyone created the Enosis idea, it was the foregin powers who ruled us and forced us into a state of mind where we had to go to drastic measures to keep our dignity.

Although, this idea that Greek Cypriots are not Greek is a trait used by the Turkish government, to try and show how wrong the Enosis idea was and back there up their illegal invasion.

To set the record straigth again, I am not for Enosis and want a fair reunification of the island, with no guarantor powers involved.

[cannedmoose]

To set the record straigth again, I am not for Enosis and want a fair reunification of the island, with no guarantor powers involved.

I agree with you on that one Sourcey...

[JustAnAmerican]

I am not for Enosis and want a fair reunification of the island, with no guarantor powers involved.

I don’t think many of the T/C in the forum would trust YOU with their sons or daughters future, and you are a young seemingly educated 25-year old. Do you think the outside world, Greece, Turkey and the EU is going to trust the even more radical G/Cs and T/Cs alike to play nicely after reunification?

I don’t think your fellow countrymen would go for no guarantor.

[Dhavlos]

we are Pontians from Georgia...

Micatcyp You mean lazs?
Or there were greeks in georgia too? And what are they doing in cyprus

Well, it doesnt surprise me. In my village in the north, apparently, the people there can speak a kind of 'classical' greek, and dont like being refered to as turks!! The whole village from turkey was moved into the village in cyprus!!

Neway you have to understand the cyprus has been used by turkey to get rid of its 'rif-raf' as such, or peoples of other races, ususally the poor and oppressed, back on the mainland. Not many of them are probably 'turks' in the way you or i think of them.

And with the idea that GCs or TCs may be 'pure-blooded' is ridiculous. Chances are most GCs have turkish blood, and visa-versa!!!!
Anyway, ive heard that before British rule, some GCs turned muslim so they would not be oppresed, and so 'made' themselves TC, during the ottoman rule. The only real/main differences between the two groups of people(GC/TC) is probably religion. Im sure there must be some mixed blood, so to say we are pure is silly, and most TCs speak greek anyway it seems.

PS there are greeks in georgia...pontic greeks i think.

[Main_Source]

don’t think many of the T/C in the forum would trust YOU with their sons or daughters future, and you are a young seemingly educated 25-year old. Do you think the outside world, Greece, Turkey and the EU is going to trust the even more radical G/Cs and T/Cs alike to play nicely after reunification?

I don’t think your fellow countrymen would go for no guarantor.

Why wouldn't they trust me? Because im not afraid to speak my mind? Do you think that everything is black and white? Do you think because I agree with the THEORY of Enosis in a time where GC were being shit upon by another foreign power...that I naturally think Enosis should still go through? lol...how am I radical? REALLY, what posts have I written to say that I am an ultra nationalist with a thirst for the blood of TC babies or ssomething? lol Besides, after ALL that has happened since the 1950's...you think anyone would be so stupid as to make it happen AGAIN
!? It couldn't...Cyprus is in the EU (a word I know you dislike) now and all eyes would be on us. Even if Cyprus isn't in the EU, you think Cypriots would be stupid enough as to go through all the pain again?

Actually, I think its a person like you, who see's no wrong in American foreign policy, who both GC and TC do not trust. You have to be either ignorant and blind or totally brain-washed to be in a state of mind such as yourself, to actually think American Foreign Policy is for the good of the world and not American greed and dominence. Hence the reason why you are trying to brainwash TC into wanting guarantorship, so that America can have access to our geographically important strategic island through the guarantor nations.