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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:21 am

i'm just wondering what would really happen if the turkish army just packed up and left northern cyprus, and the borders were opened. wouldn't more violence erupt as the GCs returned to reclaim their properties?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:26 am

I don’t think the RoC government would allow emotionally charged people to just rush out there. They’ll most likely close off the roadblocks for as long as it takes for law and order to be spread and established to the rest of the island. In the end they’ll most likely start allowing people to shift to their properties while ensuring that nobody is left homeless.
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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:30 am

so it would be up to ROC, and the turkish army should have no part in it? and the turks that have been living there and calling it a home-- do you think they would willingly want to leave?

i am just wondering how this re-unification would play out.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:31 am

I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:33 am

Oracle wrote:I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.


We could send a couple of taxis for them.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:37 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.


We could send a couple of taxis for them.


:lol:

Or they can trot over on a few Karpas donkeys.
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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:41 am

Oracle wrote:I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.


you really don't think people would die for keeping thier homes? turkish or greek cypriots, isn't home where tghe heart is?
1974 was a long time ago. so some turks in the north have been living in some home that was previously a GC's home. in the 35 years that have passed, have not the GCs made a home elsewhere, they would be so willing to give up to go back to the niorth? 35 years of births and deaths, and celebrations. is that not the same for the TCs living in the north? after 35 years of births and deaths and celebrations, they would so willingly and peacefully vacate?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:54 am

GorillaGal wrote:
Oracle wrote:I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.


you really don't think people would die for keeping thier homes? turkish or greek cypriots, isn't home where tghe heart is?
1974 was a long time ago. so some turks in the north have been living in some home that was previously a GC's home. in the 35 years that have passed, have not the GCs made a home elsewhere, they would be so willing to give up to go back to the niorth? 35 years of births and deaths, and celebrations. is that not the same for the TCs living in the north? after 35 years of births and deaths and celebrations, they would so willingly and peacefully vacate?


No ... I truly think Human nature doesn't work that way. There may be the odd TC or Brit who refuses to leave. But those cases would be taken up by Courts and eviction notices served or bailiffs called in.

I don't think GC refugees would risk losing everything by acting silly for the sake of a few more months to go through the Courts. Most of them have visited their homes over the last few years anyway, and none have reacted improperly.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:02 am

Hello gorilla gal good to see you back ;) firstly though there are no borders in Cyprus .... there is a green line which divides the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot occupied area from the free area of the Cypriot Territory.

Secondly most refugees of the 1974 war have accommodation and some are well established. To this end not many would be looking at moving back to their homes in a hurry. Most homes would probably need a lot of work before many Greek speaking Cypriots some Cypriots have gotten used to to the high life. So in many ways the best thing that could happen is for the Turkish army to move out, the helping Greek army to do the same, the UN envoy to increase to maintain law and order, the RoC to obtain church land in the north and build accommodation for those TC's and those TC's only who do not wish to return to their homes in the south. The so called new Cypriots for whatever reason are to remain behind can go to private accommodation in the rest of the Island.
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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:09 am

Oracle wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:
Oracle wrote:I can't imagine the chaos would be anything like the bloodbath it had become as the GCs were originally ethnically cleansed by the Turks from the north.

So this shouldn't be a major consideration as a deterrent to the Turks just leaving. :D

As for TCs rushing back to the south, there are so few of them left, I'm sure there won't be much congestion.


you really don't think people would die for keeping thier homes? turkish or greek cypriots, isn't home where tghe heart is?
1974 was a long time ago. so some turks in the north have been living in some home that was previously a GC's home. in the 35 years that have passed, have not the GCs made a home elsewhere, they would be so willing to give up to go back to the niorth? 35 years of births and deaths, and celebrations. is that not the same for the TCs living in the north? after 35 years of births and deaths and celebrations, they would so willingly and peacefully vacate?


No ... I truly think Human nature doesn't work that way. There may be the odd TC or Brit who refuses to leave. But those cases would be taken up by Courts and eviction notices served or bailiffs called in.

I don't think GC refugees would risk losing everything by acting silly for the sake of a few more months to go through the Courts. Most of them have visited their homes over the last few years anyway, and none have reacted improperly.


oracle-- i am understanding it better now, and thank you for your patience. i am just wondering how the GCs could so willingly leave what has been their home for the past 35 years, to reclaim someplace in the north that they have not seen for decades.
it's never going to be the same. for 35 years, they have been living in other communiites, building new lives, and they would walk away from that so easily?
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