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Postby observer » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:22 am

All this talk about "ancestral lands" would be much more convincing if the GCs had not sold off so much of their "ancestral land" to foreigners in the South.

I accept that there are some GCs who would move back, but for the majority it is about money.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:30 am

observer wrote:All this talk about "ancestral lands" would be much more convincing if the GCs had not sold off so much of their "ancestral land" to foreigners in the South.

I accept that there are some GCs who would move back, but for the majority it is about money.

It doesn’t make any difference what each person’s intent is with THEIR property.

I doubt anyone has ever questioned if your reasons for staying at your current home are emotional or a financial investment, so what gives you the right to question them?

Their intent is totally irrelevant to their undeniable rights.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:36 am

observer wrote:All this talk about "ancestral lands" would be much more convincing if the GCs had not sold off so much of their "ancestral land" to foreigners in the South.

I accept that there are some GCs who would move back, but for the majority it is about money.


So, you only stole nearly half of Cyprus so that you can stop it from being 'sold' on by the natives?
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:44 am

The most possible scenario is a civil war between G/cs political parties.They will fight each other on who was the big hero who suceeded such a move of Turkish army.After long time, when they will suceed to devide the glory they will,maybe deal also about the situation to be created.
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Postby Dr J » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:35 pm

More and more TC's will disagree with your above assertion. Like I do. Cyprus should be independant of any country. As we know a lot of damage has been done to the way we all think. Ways must be found to 'repair' the damage so we can achieve an independent Cyprus.


Very true but you cannot place restrictions on Greek Cypriots in any future settlement as it would be a reminder of colonial times. Giving Turkish Cypriots extra rights over Greek Cypriots would not make the average person confident in any constitution - especially if the rest of the EU states are allowed to have a real democracy.

If your people were under colonial rule for so long and suffered from many human rights violations - its going to have a lasting affect on the psychological perception of your former colonial rulers. Even today there are black people in the western world who see white people as former slave masters. Its the same with the Greek Cypriots and Greeks in general.

Forcing a constitution on us where Greek Cypriot citizens are told that they cant have the same rights or priveleges are Turkish Cypriots, or they cant live in a certain part of Cyprus because of their ethnicity, EVEN though it is there ancestrol home, is REALLY not going to help matters. It would be like we were under colonial rule again.

Does this make sense?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:55 pm

Sort of makes sense.

How de we get rid of these 'chips on shoulders'. We have to learn to trust but most of all the new generation must be educated in a sensible way and not fed hatred.
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Postby Dr J » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:12 pm

Education and time.

I think you need to educate people whats right and wrong and if this generation doesnt get it the next one will hopefully. Where as the UK has gone slightly on political correctness overload, I think Cyprus needs a large educational dose on it.
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Postby Dr J » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:17 pm

Adding to that, to expect there to be a great deal of harmony now, taking into account how long the two communities have been apart and with no soluton being found - is totally unrealistic.

Put it this way, there are still slight issues between 'West Germans' and 'East Germans'. From my understanding they look down upon eachother still - and they are BOTH German.

These idiots that say because GC and TC dont skip around together wearing daisy chains around there necks, there will never be a peaceful society, are either stupid or have other agendas.
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Postby Jerry » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:25 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Sort of makes sense.

How de we get rid of these 'chips on shoulders'. We have to learn to trust but most of all the new generation must be educated in a sensible way and not fed hatred.


It's not easy to stop new generations being fed hatred Deniz especially by some of the posters using this site. Judging by the blatant racism and Turk bashing that goes on here I'm surprised we are not war. Some people even appear to believe that we can solve the Cyprus Problem by telling the other side how much we hate them, I put it down to ignorance and lack of intellect.
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Postby Dr J » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:33 pm

udging by the blatant racism and Turk bashing that goes on here I'm surprised we are not war


Technically we are.
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