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Will there be a solution by the end of 2009?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Do you truely believe there will be solution by the end of 2009?

Poll ended at Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:09 pm

YES
11
31%
NO
25
69%
 
Total votes : 36

Postby zan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:25 am

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.


Wake up Milti.... :roll:

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

I think the usage of inverted commas denoting that a nation that is recognized the world over is indicative of who is dreaming don't you think so Zan. THE PRETENCE IS COMING TO AN END !
So the one that most definitely needs to wake up is you Zan. The RoC exists in every sense of the legal interpretation code. The "trnc" inhabited overwhelmingly by non Cypriots but settlers is the one that you so naively present as the REAL Cyprus .Poppycock.


I see you only answer the parts that suit you......I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it...I do not have to go along with the lunacy of recognising a hostile takeover of my island by Greeks.....Now that is done...Ask me again to give you my soul...Tell me again that it is worth it so that I can march to the Greek anthem and flag...Show me where in the "RoC"s repertoire have they made provisions for the TC people so that they will not just disappear even before they have disappeared physically. What history books are we in???What tourist information books are we in...I keep looking but have found nothing that says I exist at all never mind as a state.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Waited long enough for an honest answer Miltiades....Work is calling!!!! Spend the rest of the day talking with people who tell you what you want to hear rather than the truth....Be happy!!!
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:47 am

zan wrote:.....I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it..


Does this mean you don't recognise Turkey either?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:20 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:WHo voted YES, are you brave enough to tell us how arrived at your decision?


Me, to piss you off.


Do you think the losers will accept conditions of surrender though?


If there is no Agreement, then both sides are the losers.

No leader will sign anything. Then you have the referandum, if it ever comes to that. You can guess the results.

Like fools we can still hope.

Anyone remember Nasreddin Hodja's attempt at turning the lake into yogurt? What was his reply? "Yes, I know but what if!!".
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Re: Will there be a solution by the end of 2009?

Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Can we have a vote on if you think there will be a solution to the Cyprus issue by the end of 2009.


If I vote "yes", will you go away .....
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Postby runaway » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:52 pm

no solution by the end of 2009 2019 2029 2039 ........
KKTC loves you all
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:56 pm

runaway wrote:no solution by the end of 2009 2019 2029 2039 ........
KKTC loves you all


I'm sure it does...just like all the other money-seeking desparate whores.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:58 pm

runaway wrote:no solution by the end of 2009 2019 2029 2039 ........
KKTC loves you all

They must love extinction… :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:58 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.


Wake up Milti.... :roll:

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

I think the usage of inverted commas denoting that a nation that is recognized the world over is indicative of who is dreaming don't you think so Zan. THE PRETENCE IS COMING TO AN END !
So the one that most definitely needs to wake up is you Zan. The RoC exists in every sense of the legal interpretation code. The "trnc" inhabited overwhelmingly by non Cypriots but settlers is the one that you so naively present as the REAL Cyprus .Poppycock.


I see you only answer the parts that suit you......I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it...I do not have to go along with the lunacy of recognising a hostile takeover of my island by Greeks.....Now that is done...Ask me again to give you my soul...Tell me again that it is worth it so that I can march to the Greek anthem and flag...Show me where in the "RoC"s repertoire have they made provisions for the TC people so that they will not just disappear even before they have disappeared physically. What history books are we in???What tourist information books are we in...I keep looking but have found nothing that says I exist at all never mind as a state.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Firstly you have to face realities just as I have by accepting that G/C extremists made the life of innocent T/Cs hell , they also did it to G/C innocent civilians. Likewise the T/C extremists carried out equally vulgar and cruel acts against not only the G/Cs but also against those T/Cs who did not share their stated objective of Taksim. Both sides killed and caused mayhem but unlike you we have moved on. Sevgul's book must be placed on your list of priority books to read.
I have consistently criticized the adoption of the Greek national anthem by the Cypriot government , I have challenged the use of a foreign flag I have decried the RoC for not adopting a wider policy on integrating the T/Cs back to their nation .
You and the likes of you will never see peace because the hatred within you does not permit you.
The Turkish invading forces committed atrocities against unarmed men women and children , we must now accept that war has a price and it is the high price that mostly the innocent pay.
The continued nonsense , and it is nonsense , of not accepting like the rest of the world does , that the RoC is the only legitimate government of Cyprus , just see what the EU CJ recently adopted.
You say that your rights were taken by force !!!
No Sir the Grey wolves took your rights away along with the G/C extremists.


Keep washing your hands Pontius Polit.......What you accuse others of taking is in your hands now and still you refuse to give it back. Thats the bottom line.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:59 pm

VP is doing a poll to see if he should be concerned… :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:02 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:.....I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it..


Does this mean you don't recognise Turkey either?


You should be more concerned about what you are doing...What happens with Turkey is our problem...As the TRNC/KKTC
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