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[humanist]

You only have to read halil's posts to know we are dealing with racist over the occupied Cyprus and Talat's spokesman comments to know we are going nowhere just yet

[YFred]

There will be some losers who will have to accept compensation especially if most of the TCs do not wish to go back south. But majority will get what they want.

What compels you to post such utter nonsense?

First you say it’s the “last chance” and then out of the blue “some losers who will have to accept compensation”???

Based on what? A hypothetical “plan” that’s not a plan because the “last chance” has gone?

Earth calling Major Tom - the last chance is end of the year, wake up.

Why don't you tell us more about this "compensation plan" that's not really a plan because it comes AFTER the infamous "last chance"!

Don't worry your little mind over such things, Talat's got it in hand. Him and Mr X are best of friends, even if they pretend to be otherwise for the GC population consumption.

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[DT.]

There will be some losers who will have to accept compensation especially if most of the TCs do not wish to go back south. But majority will get what they want.

What compels you to post such utter nonsense?

First you say it’s the “last chance” and then out of the blue “some losers who will have to accept compensation”???

Based on what? A hypothetical “plan” that’s not a plan because the “last chance” has gone?

Earth calling Major Tom - the last chance is end of the year, wake up.

Why don't you tell us more about this "compensation plan" that's not really a plan because it comes AFTER the infamous "last chance"!

Don't worry your little mind over such things, Talat's got it in hand. Him and Mr X are best of friends, even if they pretend to be otherwise for the GC population consumption.

“The Last Chance!”

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Out now!

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The GC population is not the one that voted for Eroglu in the last pseudo elections. The GC population is the one that voted in Christofias for a solution. I believe the population consumption has a lot to do with your newly elected grey wolves.

[miltiades]

I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.

[waldorf]

Milti,
I am a Brit, born in Cyprus - what you might call, a reverse Charlie. I have lived through the 50's, 60's and 70's, and closely follow the politics of the Island.
Your post is admirable. I only wish I had your faith.

[miltiades]

Milti,
I am a Brit, born in Cyprus - what you might call, a reverse Charlie. I have lived through the 50's, 60's and 70's, and closely follow the politics of the Island.
Your post is admirable. I only wish I had your faith.

I have to admit that by nature I'm and always have been an optimist , I'm the " half full glass " type . Knowing T/Cs as well as I do , I'm of the opinion that the majority would cringe at the thought of the T/C totally assimilated by Turkey and have their lives run by the majority of the settlers in the north. I believe that they would like nothing more than to be a part of the overall political system in Cyprus , citizens of the EU and above all EQUAL IN ALL RESPECTS TO THE REST OF THE CYPRIOT POPULATION.
They can only be a minority as Turks , but not as T/Cs.
Here in the UK I and thousands of other immigrants do not see ourselves as a minority group on the contrary those of us who consider the UK as our nation are very much a part of the majority. I have never in my almost 50 years in the UK have considered my self to be part of a minority or at least it has never bothered me that the UK Cypriots are numerically so tiny compared tp all other UK citizens.

[zan]

I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.

Wake up Milti....

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

[miltiades]

I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.

Wake up Milti....

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

I think the usage of inverted commas denoting that a nation that is recognized the world over is indicative of who is dreaming don't you think so Zan. THE PRETENCE IS COMING TO AN END !
So the one that most definitely needs to wake up is you Zan. The RoC exists in every sense of the legal interpretation code. The "trnc" inhabited overwhelmingly by non Cypriots but settlers is the one that you so naively present as the REAL Cyprus .Poppycock.

[zan]

I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.

Wake up Milti....

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

I think the usage of inverted commas denoting that a nation that is recognized the world over is indicative of who is dreaming don't you think so Zan. THE PRETENCE IS COMING TO AN END !
So the one that most definitely needs to wake up is you Zan. The RoC exists in every sense of the legal interpretation code. The "trnc" inhabited overwhelmingly by non Cypriots but settlers is the one that you so naively present as the REAL Cyprus .Poppycock.

I see you only answer the parts that suit you......I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it...I do not have to go along with the lunacy of recognising a hostile takeover of my island by Greeks.....Now that is done...Ask me again to give you my soul...Tell me again that it is worth it so that I can march to the Greek anthem and flag...Show me where in the "RoC"s repertoire have they made provisions for the TC people so that they will not just disappear even before they have disappeared physically. What history books are we in???What tourist information books are we in...I keep looking but have found nothing that says I exist at all never mind as a state....

[miltiades]

I'm of the opinion that a solution will be agreed upon in the very near future , not certain if its going to be this year but most certainly in the year 2010 , by all accounts the "sell by date" of the "trnc"
The EU recent judgement has had a profound impact on Turkey , who must surely by now realize that the recognition dream is over , and that the way forward is to remove conditions that she knows well to be unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people.

With foreign investment declining rapidly , development practically at a standstill , reliance on Turkeys handouts becoming more acute , there is not much than Turkey can now do to sustain and market the "trnc"
The latest furore over oil exploration is no more than clutching at straws , Turkey surely knows that she can not challenge or worst still intercept an American vessel , it would be political suicide and the Turkish politicians know this.
Cyprus has the real prospects now to become the true jewel of the Mediterranean , oil rich she will be , no doubt about that , with a strong financial backbone it would be an attractive alternative for T/Cs to turn to . Talat is aware of the dreaded scenario , for the "trnc" where a large number of T/Cs return to their "roots" , claim their properties and all benefits that the citizens of Cyprus enjoy , knowing very well that the settlers will completely take over an impoverished cash strapped northern Cyprus. It has now become an urgent course for Talat to follow. A solution is far better than the economic destruction of the northern part of Cyprus.

Wake up Milti....

You still don't get it do you. What you are asking us to do?? Lets just balance it out for you.


At the moment we have an identity...TURKISH CYPRIOTS!!! You are asking us to give up everything and just walk into the crowd and disappear into a nation that walks and talks like a Greek and not like a duck. You expect TCs who have invested in the TRNC to give it all up and surrender to their tormenters. You expect us to be blinded by oil and this fictional "citisenship" that will give us everything we ever wanted. YOu expect us to walk to the tune of the GReek national anthem and live i a country that has made no provisions for our existence apart from making up the numbers as an unflattering "minority" of Greek muslims. I could go on..........


You hold up a trinket and ask for our hearts and souls......I think it's cruel of any TC that has made you believe that we could ever do that.....That we will ever do that......I for one say keep the bloody oil....The TRNC would be better off without it.....My last holiday there was tranquil and more like the old CYprus that the "RoC" will never be again...WAKE UP MILTIADES!!!!!!

I think the usage of inverted commas denoting that a nation that is recognized the world over is indicative of who is dreaming don't you think so Zan. THE PRETENCE IS COMING TO AN END !
So the one that most definitely needs to wake up is you Zan. The RoC exists in every sense of the legal interpretation code. The "trnc" inhabited overwhelmingly by non Cypriots but settlers is the one that you so naively present as the REAL Cyprus .Poppycock.

I see you only answer the parts that suit you......I do not recognise the people that took my rights by force...That threatened a three year olds life and killed other three year olds to achieve it...I do not have to go along with the lunacy of recognising a hostile takeover of my island by Greeks.....Now that is done...Ask me again to give you my soul...Tell me again that it is worth it so that I can march to the Greek anthem and flag...Show me where in the "RoC"s repertoire have they made provisions for the TC people so that they will not just disappear even before they have disappeared physically. What history books are we in???What tourist information books are we in...I keep looking but have found nothing that says I exist at all never mind as a state....

Firstly you have to face realities just as I have by accepting that G/C extremists made the life of innocent T/Cs hell , they also did it to G/C innocent civilians. Likewise the T/C extremists carried out equally vulgar and cruel acts against not only the G/Cs but also against those T/Cs who did not share their stated objective of Taksim. Both sides killed and caused mayhem but unlike you we have moved on. Sevgul's book must be placed on your list of priority books to read.
I have consistently criticized the adoption of the Greek national anthem by the Cypriot government , I have challenged the use of a foreign flag I have decried the RoC for not adopting a wider policy on integrating the T/Cs back to their nation .
You and the likes of you will never see peace because the hatred within you does not permit you.
The Turkish invading forces committed atrocities against unarmed men women and children , we must now accept that war has a price and it is the high price that mostly the innocent pay.
The continued nonsense , and it is nonsense , of not accepting like the rest of the world does , that the RoC is the only legitimate government of Cyprus , just see what the EU CJ recently adopted.
You say that your rights were taken by force !!!
No Sir the Grey wolves took your rights away along with the G/C extremists.