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[Kifeas]

Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:

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DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.

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http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980


These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?

[wyoming cowboy]

These morons as you call them cant see past their nose. The ones defeated are the ones desperate for a solution. their policies and brainpower brought them to the point of self embargoes, closed borders destitute populations, no economy and the condemnation of the entire world. At our lowest point they invade and capture a chunk of the island, but they will withdraw and take the ROC terms for peace. They have no other choice except if they decide on destruction.

Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:

…………………………..
DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.

……………………………………………………

http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980


These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?

[DT.]

Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:

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DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.

……………………………………………………

http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980


These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?

Its an honest statement. What a lot of TC's have at the tip of their tongue but swallow at the last minute so as not to give the game away. Truth is if this is the apporach talat wishes to take then all his other strategies need to be aborted. Arguments such as legal peace intervention in 1974 needs to be abandoned since apparently it was an invasion/war and they won it.

[Oracle]

It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

.... Apart from the fact this Hasan Ercakican is unaware Hitler was dead "after the Second World War" ... he fails also to realise with whom he should draw his comparisons. Invading and illegally occupying other sovereign nations is what Turkish-inspired Hitler was infamous for, and what the Turks continue to practice. It seems they do not know themselves ....

[Kifeas]

Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:

…………………………..
DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.

……………………………………………………

http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980


These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?

Its an honest statement. What a lot of TC's have at the tip of their tongue but swallow at the last minute so as not to give the game away. Truth is if this is the apporach talat wishes to take then all his other strategies need to be aborted. Arguments such as legal peace intervention in 1974 needs to be abandoned since apparently it was an invasion/war and they won it.

How can someone possibly claim to have won an illegal invasion and occupation against a country 100 times smaller; and which, besides, resulted to the "victory" claimers their own isolation and economic devastation, to the extent of facing extinction by their own means? The very notion is absurd, DT!

[DT.]

Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:

…………………………..
DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.

So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.

……………………………………………………

http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980


These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?

Its an honest statement. What a lot of TC's have at the tip of their tongue but swallow at the last minute so as not to give the game away. Truth is if this is the apporach talat wishes to take then all his other strategies need to be aborted. Arguments such as legal peace intervention in 1974 needs to be abandoned since apparently it was an invasion/war and they won it.

How can someone possibly claim to have won an illegal invasion and occupation against a country 100 times smaller; and which, besides, resulted to the "victory" claimers their own isolation and economic devastation, to the extent of facing extinction by their own means? The very notion is absurd, DT!

Not saying its right. I'm saying its what they'd like to finish all discussions and debates with...."we won the war we can do what we like" Unfortunately till now it would have been absurd for them to say so cause they chose a path of trying to legalise the invasion and occupation and make it look like it was anything BUT a war.

Looks like talats spokesman didn't manage to bite his tongue in time.

[Piratis]

Nazi Germany invaded and occupied sovereign independent countries. Just like Turkey did with Cyprus. When Germany invaded Czechoslovakia they did so with the pretext of protecting the German minority in that country. The same excuse that Turkey used to invade Cyprus. The Nazi leadership of Turkey is not much different from the Nazi leadership of Germany during WWII.

The German Nazis did occupy most of Europe and they did impose their will by force for several years. They also installed puppet governments in the countries they occupied. Just like the Turks do.

But the Nazis did not win the war because the free world did not recognize the Nazi rule over the lands they illegally occupied. The war continued until eventually the Nazis lost the war.

The same for Cyprus. The war that the Turks started against us will continue until the foreign invaders are defeated. We will not surrender to the Turkish Nazis.

What we have today is a cold war, and we have many efficient ways to fight this war and cause major problems to our enemies. We can fight this war while enjoying high standards of living and a good quality of life, while our enemies will continue to face more and more consequences for their illegal actions. The Turks are in no position to force us to accept their terms.

Eventually the balance of power will change, as it always does, and with a large part of Turkey belonging to the Kurds (Kurdistan) it will be much easier to split Turkey than it was to split Germany.

[Kikapu]

Hasan Ercakican doesn't know his ass from the hole in the ground. Only a first class idiot can make such stupid comments. Without the approval of his supposed "loser of the war", he, the "winner of the war" could not even stage a friendly football game with a shitty team like Luton FC. That should be enough of an embarrassment for the "winner of the war" to keep his mouth shut and not try to act like a 4 star General Patton. This idiot needs a reality check of his senses, assuming he has any to begin with, which I very much doubt. Where the hell do we TC's find such mindless fools to speak for us.! Second thoughts, I really do not want to know.!

[umit07]

I find it very interesting how the old CTP crowd has changed tune after coming to power. If Denktash and Co. had said something similar, these very same people would have slagged them off big time. Having a state that cannot even buy toilet paper for it's schools and role playing the triumphant victor of a war, do not exactly go hand in hand.

P.S: Kif. this dude Ercakica as far as I can see just got pissed off by Karoyan and used his balls instead of his brain in to end the article. Much like what you have done in your opening post.

[coremax]

considering the current 'status quo' - RoC has lost half of the island to Turks, the guy has a point and no matter what remarks you may voice in front of those computer screens won't get you that half back - ain't it?