EPSILON wrote:Kifeas wrote:EPSILON wrote:Kifeas wrote:Below is an extract of this week’s editorial of “Cyprus Observer,” the newspaper Hasan Ercakican, Talat’s spokesman, publishes on the net. Among other nonsense, he said the following hilarious things:
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DIKO leader Karoyan must remember that it is the victors who put their conditions at the end of wars. The Americans, British, French and the Russians laid down their terms for Hitler’s’ defeated Germany. It was not Hitler or the Germans who dictated to the allies after the Second World War.
So, it is going to be Turkey’s and the Turkish Cypriot’s terms for a solution. Let them take the magnanimous hands of Turkey and Turkish Cypriots for a lasting peace in Cyprus and the region.
Throughout history, losers did not only accept conditions of surrender but have, also, to pay for reparations and losses.
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http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/ ... px?id=3980These are the people we GCs negotiate with. I suppose Talat, to have this idiot as his spokesman, also shares his above views. Now, what shall we say as GCs? Would we be wrong to say that if these lunatics still believe that they “won a war in 1974” and they are entitled to dictate the terms of peace, akin the allies against Nazi Germany, let’s fuck Turkey’s EU accession, once and for all; and let them also rot in isolation until the hell freezes, or until they disappear as a community from the face of earth? Are we wrong and unfair to make such thoughts? Are these people so far detached with reality, that they still believe they are the winners of a war, and we GCs the losers? How much of a pathetic and desperate loser someone has to be, to utter the above nonsense?
Good morning Vietnam!!!I am shouting this since the first day in this forum but many of us (G/cs) living in moon, looking for brothers and sisters in occupied area to solve the problem.If you loose a war then options asre only two- accept this factor and sign the surrended agreement or stuck on your values and targets until the invator's cost of occupation became unconfortable. The second needs some other politicians and some other Cypriots who have put in the corner for 40 years now.
Epsilon, the only people I know that were "put in the corner for 40 years now," are those Eoka Betases that carried the coup against the elected government of the RoC and who, as soon as the Turks begun invading Kyrenia coasts, took all the Kalashnikovs of the NG and went hiding in the Troodos mountains -some even making “souvla” under the pine-trees; leaving the 18 year olds of the NG alone to face the invaders with WWI Martini Enfield rifles! Are these the people you talk about, that were "put in the corner for 40 years now?"
No my friend. are not only these trators who put aside in Cyprus.Generally (after 1974) we use (in Cyprus) to confuse patriotic actions/policies with fanatics and trators. Junta of Greece organized the coup and the conclusion was that we have to change Ethnicity and targets because whatever refers to Hellenism mixed up with junta regime and EOKA B.The result will be a no grounded policy without targets without scope.Just solving the Cyprus problem on financial factors basis.Is anybody in G/c socity who can refer to Hellenism without immdly to be declared as trator and cooperator of Junta and EOKA B? Even he born several years after these facts he can not refer to his Ethnos because we have mixed up everything in this Island and we consider that we can re-start the Cyprus history from zero, after 1974..
... and, for the record, the coup was carried out by the National Guard not EOKA B' and although some EOKA B' units were indeed formed, these units did fight in the front and got a great deal of the action And again for the record, the coup was organised by the Junta of Ioannidis. The Papadopoulos junta, which Ioannides essentially overthrew, was a staunch supporter of the intercommunal talks.
